Post by Kiwi Frontline on Feb 10, 2019 5:38:28 GMT 12
Letter to the editor; (Sent to the Sunday Star Times 31/1/19)
In response to Hinemoa Elder 28.1.19, What is this Woman on? She needs to weed out her own racist lies, the so called Colonials have built all the infrastructure and comforts she enjoys in this country.
She infers lateral violence Maori beating up Maori is because of the Colonials? Maori were committing horrific atrocities to each other long before the English landed here!
Who are the majority now committing violence on woman and children, stop trying to blame others and start taking some responsibility for yourselves for a change.
Also in the Treaty of Waitangi the Chiefs did cede Sovereignty to Queen Victoria [another lie saying they didn’t], since when would a Queen of Britain ever form a partnership with a handful of natives only, excuse me!
1860 at Kohimarama, 20 years on after the Treaty, where the meeting of many of the Chiefs who had signed, gathered to say they were happy with the Treaty and fully understood Queen Victoria’s Sovereignty over them and all the people of NZ.
The Chiefs were well versed, the Missionaries had taught many English well and about God and it could be said they had a better understanding than you Ms Elder!
C HUMPHREYS, Katikati
The Editor, (Sent to the Dominion Post 29/1/19)
Lost in Translation(?)
Only one legitimate Treaty namely TeTiriti o Waitangi maori language version with a Preamble and 3 Articles a benign document all Kiwis could live with plus one genuine final Hobson/Busby English language draft (aka Littlewood draft) which cross-translates perfectly with the signed TeTiriti whereas the bogus/false Freeman version doesn’t.
No signed EnglishTreaty and Hobson stated Treaty signed at Waitangi on 6 February1840 was the only Treaty.
Translating one page /500 words into 30 languages is nonsense.
Once Treaty was signed, almost immediately redundant as Sovereignty ceded by chiefs who signed, British Citizenship granted and maori land sale rules all in place so 3 Articles were satisfied with the coup de grace being absolutely no reference to any Treaty Principles, Partnership nor Fisheries, Forests, Rivers, etc. in either TeTiriti or Littlewood draft!.
The Treaty promised only what was contained in the 3Articles.
In fact wasn’t a treaty as not made between nations but simply an agreement between the Crown and a group of disparate warring maori tribes represented by 52 chiefs at Waitangi with eventually 542 signatories all ceding sovereignty.
However, in reality sovereignty was acquired by the Acts of State (May1840) confirmed by QueenVictoria’s Royal Charter of 16 November1840.
ROB PATERSON, Matapihi
sites.google.com/site/kiwifrontline/letters-submitted-to-newspapers/unpublished-letters
In response to Hinemoa Elder 28.1.19, What is this Woman on? She needs to weed out her own racist lies, the so called Colonials have built all the infrastructure and comforts she enjoys in this country.
She infers lateral violence Maori beating up Maori is because of the Colonials? Maori were committing horrific atrocities to each other long before the English landed here!
Who are the majority now committing violence on woman and children, stop trying to blame others and start taking some responsibility for yourselves for a change.
Also in the Treaty of Waitangi the Chiefs did cede Sovereignty to Queen Victoria [another lie saying they didn’t], since when would a Queen of Britain ever form a partnership with a handful of natives only, excuse me!
1860 at Kohimarama, 20 years on after the Treaty, where the meeting of many of the Chiefs who had signed, gathered to say they were happy with the Treaty and fully understood Queen Victoria’s Sovereignty over them and all the people of NZ.
The Chiefs were well versed, the Missionaries had taught many English well and about God and it could be said they had a better understanding than you Ms Elder!
C HUMPHREYS, Katikati
The Editor, (Sent to the Dominion Post 29/1/19)
Lost in Translation(?)
Only one legitimate Treaty namely TeTiriti o Waitangi maori language version with a Preamble and 3 Articles a benign document all Kiwis could live with plus one genuine final Hobson/Busby English language draft (aka Littlewood draft) which cross-translates perfectly with the signed TeTiriti whereas the bogus/false Freeman version doesn’t.
No signed EnglishTreaty and Hobson stated Treaty signed at Waitangi on 6 February1840 was the only Treaty.
Translating one page /500 words into 30 languages is nonsense.
Once Treaty was signed, almost immediately redundant as Sovereignty ceded by chiefs who signed, British Citizenship granted and maori land sale rules all in place so 3 Articles were satisfied with the coup de grace being absolutely no reference to any Treaty Principles, Partnership nor Fisheries, Forests, Rivers, etc. in either TeTiriti or Littlewood draft!.
The Treaty promised only what was contained in the 3Articles.
In fact wasn’t a treaty as not made between nations but simply an agreement between the Crown and a group of disparate warring maori tribes represented by 52 chiefs at Waitangi with eventually 542 signatories all ceding sovereignty.
However, in reality sovereignty was acquired by the Acts of State (May1840) confirmed by QueenVictoria’s Royal Charter of 16 November1840.
ROB PATERSON, Matapihi
sites.google.com/site/kiwifrontline/letters-submitted-to-newspapers/unpublished-letters