Post by Kiwi Frontline on Aug 23, 2019 7:50:51 GMT 12
IHUMATAO – in a nutshell
R M writes > Re Ihumatao, which is getting more and more coverage in the media:
The land was originally confiscated because of an illegal maori uprising - the confiscation was totally legal by both our laws and THEIRS (utu). It was sold to the Wallace family, who had owned and farmed it since then. The maori were given $6.5m plus forestry plus other goodies as a Settlement later for it, even though all the deals had been legal and above-board.
Fletchers bought the land off the Wallace family legally. Even so, Fletchers promised to GIVE back to the maori about a quarter of the developed land (it has been a rough useless wasteland until now) with a large number of houses on it - all for free. The maori elders knew that this was a great deal for them, as Fletchers actually owed them nothing.
The young activists, though, steeped in the rubbish has been taught in the schools and Universities for some decades now, believe that "we owe them" and that the land was "stolen" - plus the added complication that two separate iwi think that they have the rights to anything they can screw out of Fletchers or the government.
Neither the police nor the government have the guts to tell them to back off and let the development go ahead, for that may lose them popularity or votes in 2020. The media are only interested in sensation, and don't give a damn about facts, so they are fanning the discontent instead of behaving responsibly and reporting the actual story - they just love the aggro that this is causing - they are abetting illegal public disorder and causing genuine grief and hardship (it is a cold and wet winter for the protesters camped there).
When you see pigs flying and cows jumping over the moon, we may see a responsible media and an occasional honest politician, but don't hold your breath.
R M writes > Re Ihumatao, which is getting more and more coverage in the media:
The land was originally confiscated because of an illegal maori uprising - the confiscation was totally legal by both our laws and THEIRS (utu). It was sold to the Wallace family, who had owned and farmed it since then. The maori were given $6.5m plus forestry plus other goodies as a Settlement later for it, even though all the deals had been legal and above-board.
Fletchers bought the land off the Wallace family legally. Even so, Fletchers promised to GIVE back to the maori about a quarter of the developed land (it has been a rough useless wasteland until now) with a large number of houses on it - all for free. The maori elders knew that this was a great deal for them, as Fletchers actually owed them nothing.
The young activists, though, steeped in the rubbish has been taught in the schools and Universities for some decades now, believe that "we owe them" and that the land was "stolen" - plus the added complication that two separate iwi think that they have the rights to anything they can screw out of Fletchers or the government.
Neither the police nor the government have the guts to tell them to back off and let the development go ahead, for that may lose them popularity or votes in 2020. The media are only interested in sensation, and don't give a damn about facts, so they are fanning the discontent instead of behaving responsibly and reporting the actual story - they just love the aggro that this is causing - they are abetting illegal public disorder and causing genuine grief and hardship (it is a cold and wet winter for the protesters camped there).
When you see pigs flying and cows jumping over the moon, we may see a responsible media and an occasional honest politician, but don't hold your breath.