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Taranaki Daily News 3/10/19
THE BIG PICTURE
Where is our country heading when around 120,000 residents in Taranaki are at the mercy of a small North Taranaki iwi approving or rejecting the Mt Messenger bypass project? (Daily News, September 23).
As our province’s transport needs change it is vital that our northern access route be stabilised and secured.The present unstable Mt Messenger road needs replacing.
I find it unbelievable that the small Te Runanga o Ngati Tama Iwi can decide on the future of a vitally important roading project in North Taranaki. Mr Greg White has negotiated the compensation deal with NZTA and it would be interesting to know the amount and terms agreed to.
This was a $200m project but already to the end of 2018 we see the iwi have received $741,659 (for what?) and they are still negotiating the compensation deal. $1.23m has been spent on a land swap and we still have no confirmation of the project’s approval.
While we all value our environment this is a very minor sacrifice to make for progress. I would suggest the farm affected is not an economic unit and would be no loss to the province’s economy. With respect to Te Runanga o Ngati Tama Iwi, it is time to look at the big picture.
W. MAY, New Plymouth
Northland Age 3/10/19
LASTING DAMAGE
I wonder if Wally Hicks (Letting go, letters September 26), the Crown or the schoolgirl petitioners have ever considered the ‘lasting damage’ to the descendants of the gullible 50-plus who perished while following Rua Kenana’s ideologies. Kenana’s ideologies were opposed by many Maori leaders, including Members of Parliament and doctors at the time, and was partially the reason for the Tohunga Suppression Act 1907.
Dependable research reveals that Kenana was a sly grogger, a polygamist, and unpatriotically supported a German World War I win. He forbade his male followers to enlist in the armed services, and is on record as saying “Any money I have I will give to the Germans.”
Mr Hicks appears to compare Cook’s arrival in New Zealand with Kupe’s — Kupe’s (if he ever existed) legacy was that New Zealand stayed in a state of tribal war, pillage and plunder for around 850 years, with very little progress. In contrast, peace and all the trappings of the modern world (achieved in just 250 years) that all Kiwis enjoy today can be attributed to Cook’s arrival in New Zealand.
Mr Hicks extols the work done by a few tribalists in writing a new constitution for New Zealand. These agenda-driven misfits’ ancestors could not govern New Zealand pre-1840, and begged the British for protection and law and order in 1831, and yet now they are held up by a few as capable of drafting a New Zealand constitution? This exploit will relegate all non-Maori citizens through basing it on the irrelevant Treaty of Waitangi, the non-event 1835 Declaration of Independence, and the constitution of Bolivia, where the group’s convenor, Margaret Mutu, says in Bolivia the native people are the government — and that’s become a model for Maori. Need I say more?
Lastly, could Mr Hicks please produce instances of Pakeha myth-making? I can supply instances of Maori myth-making — Ngapuhi never ceded sovereignty in signing the ToW, soldiers assaulting women at the reclaiming of Parihaka, the wicked white coloniser stole 25.2 million hectares of Maori land, 144 Maori were burnt to death in a church at Rangioawhia which General Cameron set fire to, that Kereopa Te Rau was totally innocent of the murder of missionary Carl Volkner — this list could go on ad infinitum.
GEOFF PARKER, Kamo
Wanganui Chronicle 3/10/19
NOTHING SINISTER
Your correspondent M.J. Fore (September 20) refers to “only 39 chiefs signing the English version of the Treaty”.
Had Mr Fore done any research he would know the reason why that version of the Treaty was used.
About a month after the Treaty of Waitangi signing, Rev. Maunsell invited Ma¯ ori south of the Manukau Harbour to a gathering at his mission station at Port Waikato.
About 1500 attended, including the Waikato Chief Te Wherowhero.
Maunsell had been promised a copy of the Maori version of the Treaty would be couriered to him, but it did not arrive on time so he improvised by using a copy of the “Freeman” English version.
It is very well documented that those present were well aware of the meaning of the document they were asked to sign.
Thirty-two mainly Waikato/Tainui Maori signed on the day, and a further seven a few days later at Waiuku.
That signing of 32 chiefs was third largest of all.
The language on the paper did not diminish the significance of the event.
Sorry, Mr Fore; there is nothing sinister to be found.
MURRAY REID, Cambridge
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THE BIG PICTURE
Where is our country heading when around 120,000 residents in Taranaki are at the mercy of a small North Taranaki iwi approving or rejecting the Mt Messenger bypass project? (Daily News, September 23).
As our province’s transport needs change it is vital that our northern access route be stabilised and secured.The present unstable Mt Messenger road needs replacing.
I find it unbelievable that the small Te Runanga o Ngati Tama Iwi can decide on the future of a vitally important roading project in North Taranaki. Mr Greg White has negotiated the compensation deal with NZTA and it would be interesting to know the amount and terms agreed to.
This was a $200m project but already to the end of 2018 we see the iwi have received $741,659 (for what?) and they are still negotiating the compensation deal. $1.23m has been spent on a land swap and we still have no confirmation of the project’s approval.
While we all value our environment this is a very minor sacrifice to make for progress. I would suggest the farm affected is not an economic unit and would be no loss to the province’s economy. With respect to Te Runanga o Ngati Tama Iwi, it is time to look at the big picture.
W. MAY, New Plymouth
Northland Age 3/10/19
LASTING DAMAGE
I wonder if Wally Hicks (Letting go, letters September 26), the Crown or the schoolgirl petitioners have ever considered the ‘lasting damage’ to the descendants of the gullible 50-plus who perished while following Rua Kenana’s ideologies. Kenana’s ideologies were opposed by many Maori leaders, including Members of Parliament and doctors at the time, and was partially the reason for the Tohunga Suppression Act 1907.
Dependable research reveals that Kenana was a sly grogger, a polygamist, and unpatriotically supported a German World War I win. He forbade his male followers to enlist in the armed services, and is on record as saying “Any money I have I will give to the Germans.”
Mr Hicks appears to compare Cook’s arrival in New Zealand with Kupe’s — Kupe’s (if he ever existed) legacy was that New Zealand stayed in a state of tribal war, pillage and plunder for around 850 years, with very little progress. In contrast, peace and all the trappings of the modern world (achieved in just 250 years) that all Kiwis enjoy today can be attributed to Cook’s arrival in New Zealand.
Mr Hicks extols the work done by a few tribalists in writing a new constitution for New Zealand. These agenda-driven misfits’ ancestors could not govern New Zealand pre-1840, and begged the British for protection and law and order in 1831, and yet now they are held up by a few as capable of drafting a New Zealand constitution? This exploit will relegate all non-Maori citizens through basing it on the irrelevant Treaty of Waitangi, the non-event 1835 Declaration of Independence, and the constitution of Bolivia, where the group’s convenor, Margaret Mutu, says in Bolivia the native people are the government — and that’s become a model for Maori. Need I say more?
Lastly, could Mr Hicks please produce instances of Pakeha myth-making? I can supply instances of Maori myth-making — Ngapuhi never ceded sovereignty in signing the ToW, soldiers assaulting women at the reclaiming of Parihaka, the wicked white coloniser stole 25.2 million hectares of Maori land, 144 Maori were burnt to death in a church at Rangioawhia which General Cameron set fire to, that Kereopa Te Rau was totally innocent of the murder of missionary Carl Volkner — this list could go on ad infinitum.
GEOFF PARKER, Kamo
Wanganui Chronicle 3/10/19
NOTHING SINISTER
Your correspondent M.J. Fore (September 20) refers to “only 39 chiefs signing the English version of the Treaty”.
Had Mr Fore done any research he would know the reason why that version of the Treaty was used.
About a month after the Treaty of Waitangi signing, Rev. Maunsell invited Ma¯ ori south of the Manukau Harbour to a gathering at his mission station at Port Waikato.
About 1500 attended, including the Waikato Chief Te Wherowhero.
Maunsell had been promised a copy of the Maori version of the Treaty would be couriered to him, but it did not arrive on time so he improvised by using a copy of the “Freeman” English version.
It is very well documented that those present were well aware of the meaning of the document they were asked to sign.
Thirty-two mainly Waikato/Tainui Maori signed on the day, and a further seven a few days later at Waiuku.
That signing of 32 chiefs was third largest of all.
The language on the paper did not diminish the significance of the event.
Sorry, Mr Fore; there is nothing sinister to be found.
MURRAY REID, Cambridge
sites.google.com/site/kiwifrontline/letters-submitted-to-newspapers