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Bob Edlin: HOW NGAI TAHU WILL BE FLUSH WITH GOVERNANCE POWERS UNDER WATER REFORMS – BUT NOT IN ALL PARTS OF THE SOUTH ISLAND
Journalists hastened to work out what’s up for grabs in various bits of the country after the PM announced a $2.5 billion package for New Zealand’s 67 councils, if they opted in to the government’s water reforms.
This (we were reminded) follows $761m being given to councils for water infrastructure upgrades in July last year.
The media didn’t devote too much energy to examining how and/or why the boundary lines will be fixed when the responsibility for drinking water, wastewater, and storm water infrastructure is shifted from councils to four regional entities or the governance implications of having Three Waters boundaries aligned with tribal boundaries.
For example (as you will find towards the end of this Stuff report):......
breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2021/07/bob-edlin-how-ngai-tahu-will-be-flush.html
Effi Lincoln: GOUT AND THE TREATY-DRIVEN MISREPRESENTATION OF HEALTH EQUITY STATISTICS.
Every dollar that is now put into a Māori health system is one dollar less available for all other New Zealanders, including our Pacific peoples, and including Māori who wish to stay within our current system. There is much poor health in New Zealand, and much that needs to improve. I am not arguing against that.
What I am arguing is that that level of poor health is not inequitably spread from a Treaty-informed perspective and therefore there is no reason, from within an Inequity framework, to move to a massively expensive, risky, untried, separatist Māori health system which is predicated on the idea that Māori suffer more health inequities than other New Zealanders.
My opinion is but one in the team of five million but I fear what is coming enough to spend this time writing when I would rather be doing other things. I believe a separate health system for Māori is a bad, bad idea for team New Zealand.......
breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2021/07/effi-lincoln-gout-and-treaty-driven.html#more
Bob Edlin: LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEADERS CAN SHOW WAITITI HOW TO DISPOSE OF DEMOCRACY AND ADOPT A TREATY-BASED SYSTEM OF REPRESENTATION
Maori Party co-leader Rawiri Waititi was preaching to a powerful army of converts among local government leaders when he said New Zealand should forget about this democracy thing and adopt a Treaty-based system of government.
If he was accurately reported, Waititi expressed his belief that some citizens – by virtue of their race – should be more equal than others.
Can you guess which ones?
According to Newshub, he said:......
breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2021/07/bob-edlin-local-government-leaders-can.html
50 YEARS OF SETTLEMENTS USING A FAKE TREATY OF WAITANGI – Ian Bradford
Recently I wrote to Andrew Little, who is the Treaty negotiations minister. I asked him why the Littlewood version of the Treaty of Waitangi from 1840 was not being used. After some weeks I had a response, not from Mr Little, but from someone in the office of Crown-Maori relations.
This person stated that the “Littlewood Treaty was a back translation of the Maori version-Te Tiriti O Waitangi.” “It was of no significance for Treaty negotiations, and had historical interest only.”
Not a back translation
The Littlewood version is dated the 4th February 1840 and the Maori version is dated the 5th February 1840, so how can the Litlewood version be a back translation?
A back translation means going back to the Maori version and producing a translation in English. We would expect the back translation to be dated some time AFTER the 5th February 1940. Clearly, the Littlewood version is NOT a back translation.
waikanaewatch.org/2021/07/17/50-years-of-settlements-using-a-fake-treaty-of-waitangi/
WAITITI IS CHAMPIONING A TREATY-BASED SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT – AND WE SHOULDN’T BE SURPRISED THAT DEMOCRACY IS NOT THE OBJECTIVE
Democracy means government by the people, or a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
It is a state of society characterised by formal equality of rights and privileges.
And (in this definition, at least) it features
… the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges
Right there we can see why democracy might be problematic for Māori Party co-leader Rawiri Waititi, who would have surprised nobody when he outlined his vision for a ‘tiriti-centric Aotearoa’ where the majority doesn’t rule over Māori
In other words, he wants Maori to be politically privileged.........
pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2021/07/05/waititi-is-championing-a-treaty-based-system-of-government-and-we-shouldnt-be-surprised-that-democracy-is-not-the-objective/
Journalists hastened to work out what’s up for grabs in various bits of the country after the PM announced a $2.5 billion package for New Zealand’s 67 councils, if they opted in to the government’s water reforms.
This (we were reminded) follows $761m being given to councils for water infrastructure upgrades in July last year.
The media didn’t devote too much energy to examining how and/or why the boundary lines will be fixed when the responsibility for drinking water, wastewater, and storm water infrastructure is shifted from councils to four regional entities or the governance implications of having Three Waters boundaries aligned with tribal boundaries.
For example (as you will find towards the end of this Stuff report):......
breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2021/07/bob-edlin-how-ngai-tahu-will-be-flush.html
Effi Lincoln: GOUT AND THE TREATY-DRIVEN MISREPRESENTATION OF HEALTH EQUITY STATISTICS.
Every dollar that is now put into a Māori health system is one dollar less available for all other New Zealanders, including our Pacific peoples, and including Māori who wish to stay within our current system. There is much poor health in New Zealand, and much that needs to improve. I am not arguing against that.
What I am arguing is that that level of poor health is not inequitably spread from a Treaty-informed perspective and therefore there is no reason, from within an Inequity framework, to move to a massively expensive, risky, untried, separatist Māori health system which is predicated on the idea that Māori suffer more health inequities than other New Zealanders.
My opinion is but one in the team of five million but I fear what is coming enough to spend this time writing when I would rather be doing other things. I believe a separate health system for Māori is a bad, bad idea for team New Zealand.......
breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2021/07/effi-lincoln-gout-and-treaty-driven.html#more
Bob Edlin: LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEADERS CAN SHOW WAITITI HOW TO DISPOSE OF DEMOCRACY AND ADOPT A TREATY-BASED SYSTEM OF REPRESENTATION
Maori Party co-leader Rawiri Waititi was preaching to a powerful army of converts among local government leaders when he said New Zealand should forget about this democracy thing and adopt a Treaty-based system of government.
If he was accurately reported, Waititi expressed his belief that some citizens – by virtue of their race – should be more equal than others.
Can you guess which ones?
According to Newshub, he said:......
breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2021/07/bob-edlin-local-government-leaders-can.html
50 YEARS OF SETTLEMENTS USING A FAKE TREATY OF WAITANGI – Ian Bradford
Recently I wrote to Andrew Little, who is the Treaty negotiations minister. I asked him why the Littlewood version of the Treaty of Waitangi from 1840 was not being used. After some weeks I had a response, not from Mr Little, but from someone in the office of Crown-Maori relations.
This person stated that the “Littlewood Treaty was a back translation of the Maori version-Te Tiriti O Waitangi.” “It was of no significance for Treaty negotiations, and had historical interest only.”
Not a back translation
The Littlewood version is dated the 4th February 1840 and the Maori version is dated the 5th February 1840, so how can the Litlewood version be a back translation?
A back translation means going back to the Maori version and producing a translation in English. We would expect the back translation to be dated some time AFTER the 5th February 1940. Clearly, the Littlewood version is NOT a back translation.
waikanaewatch.org/2021/07/17/50-years-of-settlements-using-a-fake-treaty-of-waitangi/
WAITITI IS CHAMPIONING A TREATY-BASED SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT – AND WE SHOULDN’T BE SURPRISED THAT DEMOCRACY IS NOT THE OBJECTIVE
Democracy means government by the people, or a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
It is a state of society characterised by formal equality of rights and privileges.
And (in this definition, at least) it features
… the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges
Right there we can see why democracy might be problematic for Māori Party co-leader Rawiri Waititi, who would have surprised nobody when he outlined his vision for a ‘tiriti-centric Aotearoa’ where the majority doesn’t rule over Māori
In other words, he wants Maori to be politically privileged.........
pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2021/07/05/waititi-is-championing-a-treaty-based-system-of-government-and-we-shouldnt-be-surprised-that-democracy-is-not-the-objective/