Post by Kiwi Frontline on Oct 1, 2019 11:28:28 GMT 12
Kiwi Frontline 1/10/19
IHUMATAO MACHINATIONS
After nearly 4 months the Ihumatao land is still occupied by SOUL mischief-makers. Fletchers legitimately own this land and local iwi are more than happy with the Fletchers deal struck by them for land and houses and so they should be. Suddenly out of the blue the interlopers/trespassers appear on the scene without any colour of right or connection, unlawfully occupying the 33.8 ha land acquired by Fletchers in 2016 for around $40million.
Kowtow to the bullying demands and the loss to Fletchers will be the purchase price, holding costs, loss of profits on the sale of homes and sections plus all legal, survey planning and consultant’s costs incurred to date which is conservatively estimated around $150m. Local maori would lose the negotiated 8ha.and around 40 new homes. Current cost to Kiwi taxpayer for police & political input is already at least $3million.
There are said to be 4 options Fletchers could gift land, Government could purchase, or fund Tainui to do so or Auckland City Council could purchase or the status quo prevails which is only legitimate choice.
There must be no Government / taxpayer or Council ratepayer/bailouts – as that sets another Titford farm type precedent.
Why not let 5000 interlopers fund it, @ $30,000 each – that should do the trick, then Fletchers can just walk away. In addition the interlopers of course still have to fulfil the deal struck with local maori. However, this ain’t what the whinging great unwashed, unemployed rabble want, as it’s not their modis operandi of always wanting something for nothing and stuff everyone else
Well the ultimate final solution is just arrest the trespassers remove them from Fletcher’s land send them packing and where appropriate institute criminal proceedings. This is no Bastion Point and no negotiations are necessary for what is privately owned land. Oh, and Fletchers don’t forget to seek a fawning apology from the Government and maori interests.
.Most law abiding Kiwis don’t want a bar of buckling to violence threats ,intimidation, unlawful behaviour or fairy tales and rightly so too. Fletchers have followed all the correct protocols with ihumatao land and Otuataua Stonefields and no one has suggested otherwise.
To argue with people who have renounced the use of reason and authority and whose philosophy consists in holding fellow Kiwis in contempt is like administering medicine to the brain dead. Their sense of entitlement is delusional built on self-centredness, greed and laziness and contrary to their opinion, no one owes them anything.
ROB PATERSON, Tauranga
VARIOUS CULTURES
Your article “Lessons in identity” (September 17th) was extremely interesting. But fundamentally we are approaching this vexed problem in the wrong way. Instead of striving to preserve our various cultures, whether Pakeha, Maori or recent immigrants, we should consciously accept with confidence and pride the culture we grew up in, and build on that - but, at the same time, consciously try to adapt our lives, habits and behaviour to the present New Zealand culture. Whether we like it or not, Aotearoa now is dominated by a European, capitalistic culture, upheld by democratically chosen legislation. This sort of culture conflicts massively with all other cultures, including Maori.
We must consciously choose to completely forego our various different cultures and try, as best we can, to build a culture which, hopefully, within not too many generations will be exactly the same for all of us. And as we are intermarrying so delightfully and successfully at present, we will then all be a lovely hue of a mixture of black, pink, yellow and brown. Wish I could be there!
ANDY ESPERSEN, Nelson
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IHUMATAO MACHINATIONS
After nearly 4 months the Ihumatao land is still occupied by SOUL mischief-makers. Fletchers legitimately own this land and local iwi are more than happy with the Fletchers deal struck by them for land and houses and so they should be. Suddenly out of the blue the interlopers/trespassers appear on the scene without any colour of right or connection, unlawfully occupying the 33.8 ha land acquired by Fletchers in 2016 for around $40million.
Kowtow to the bullying demands and the loss to Fletchers will be the purchase price, holding costs, loss of profits on the sale of homes and sections plus all legal, survey planning and consultant’s costs incurred to date which is conservatively estimated around $150m. Local maori would lose the negotiated 8ha.and around 40 new homes. Current cost to Kiwi taxpayer for police & political input is already at least $3million.
There are said to be 4 options Fletchers could gift land, Government could purchase, or fund Tainui to do so or Auckland City Council could purchase or the status quo prevails which is only legitimate choice.
There must be no Government / taxpayer or Council ratepayer/bailouts – as that sets another Titford farm type precedent.
Why not let 5000 interlopers fund it, @ $30,000 each – that should do the trick, then Fletchers can just walk away. In addition the interlopers of course still have to fulfil the deal struck with local maori. However, this ain’t what the whinging great unwashed, unemployed rabble want, as it’s not their modis operandi of always wanting something for nothing and stuff everyone else
Well the ultimate final solution is just arrest the trespassers remove them from Fletcher’s land send them packing and where appropriate institute criminal proceedings. This is no Bastion Point and no negotiations are necessary for what is privately owned land. Oh, and Fletchers don’t forget to seek a fawning apology from the Government and maori interests.
.Most law abiding Kiwis don’t want a bar of buckling to violence threats ,intimidation, unlawful behaviour or fairy tales and rightly so too. Fletchers have followed all the correct protocols with ihumatao land and Otuataua Stonefields and no one has suggested otherwise.
To argue with people who have renounced the use of reason and authority and whose philosophy consists in holding fellow Kiwis in contempt is like administering medicine to the brain dead. Their sense of entitlement is delusional built on self-centredness, greed and laziness and contrary to their opinion, no one owes them anything.
ROB PATERSON, Tauranga
VARIOUS CULTURES
Your article “Lessons in identity” (September 17th) was extremely interesting. But fundamentally we are approaching this vexed problem in the wrong way. Instead of striving to preserve our various cultures, whether Pakeha, Maori or recent immigrants, we should consciously accept with confidence and pride the culture we grew up in, and build on that - but, at the same time, consciously try to adapt our lives, habits and behaviour to the present New Zealand culture. Whether we like it or not, Aotearoa now is dominated by a European, capitalistic culture, upheld by democratically chosen legislation. This sort of culture conflicts massively with all other cultures, including Maori.
We must consciously choose to completely forego our various different cultures and try, as best we can, to build a culture which, hopefully, within not too many generations will be exactly the same for all of us. And as we are intermarrying so delightfully and successfully at present, we will then all be a lovely hue of a mixture of black, pink, yellow and brown. Wish I could be there!
ANDY ESPERSEN, Nelson
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