Post by Kiwi Frontline on Jan 31, 2023 5:06:28 GMT 12
R B writes > GRRRR!
I’m so angry about so much to do with the developments around Maori and the Treaty. I’m angry because so many wet, wokish, Whitie w*nkers (the 4Ws!) are causing division, mistrust and hatred in our once sensible and balanced country. I’ve never felt less proud to be a Kiwi than I feel now.
I’m furious that so much of what’s happened in the past between Maori and non-Maori is now being misinterpreted and twisted to be negative. Take the Treaty. A simple, well-intentioned effort to enable a (primitive) native resident people to mix with settlers and together build a better life for all in a well-resourced, pleasant land.
Both parties were willing to form an agreement and that they did. The document was hastily cobbled together by non-lawyers (over 3 days!) and then translated into Maori as best could be done given the lack of some concepts and words in the Maori language.
Based off the transcripts of the debate at the signing (William Colenso) it’s reasonably clear that Maori knew what the Treaty meant. Maori ceded sovereignty, kept lands that were theirs, and become British subjects. There was intense debate at the signing. Some chiefs didn’t want to sign because they understood and didn’t agree. Fine. But eventually most did, and the Treaty was signed by the vast majority.
180 years later, what do we find? Bloody lawyers along with some scurrilous part-Maori plus the 4Ws, and the Waitangi Tribunal that is so biased, get amongst the Treaty document and do all they can to re-interpret the vague words to undermine the clear intention. So, they argue that Maori never ceded sovereignty but just “governorship” despite there being no discussion of that aspect at the time. They understood that they were giving up their chiefly authority…call it what you like! That a very specific use of the word “chieftainship” linked to ownership and control over their lands is distorted to mean a “partnership” or “co-governance” at a national level 180 years later. Rubbish! That in granting Maori “protection” as British subjects (just like the rest of us!) means that Maori are special and are entitled to equal outcomes irrespective of their efforts…or lack thereof!
The Treaty was never meant to be subject to intense scrutiny…it’s less than 600 words long and not a comprehensive legal agreement. It did its job and enabled Maori and newly arrived settlers to live together and start a new country. A wonderful country of equal opportunity. But this vague, incomplete and contradictory document is no longer relevant. It’s certainly not the basis to re-invent a new form of democracy that is based around ethnic divide. The rest of the world is trying to eliminate racism whereas successive governments in New Zealand are installing racial divide all through the legal, health, education and political systems. It’s a nonsense!
The Treaty reparations process began 40 years ago with the clear expectation that there would be an impartial review of wrongs, compensation paid where due and then move forward. An “envelope” of $1bn was tabled and most Kiwis shrugged and thought “let’s do it and get it over”. What do we find? The whole process has morphed and industry of lawyers getting rich from protracted negotiations and settlements getting larger and never ending. Plus our whole political system is spiralling into some weird form of non-elected “democracy” that isn’t democracy!
Scrap the Treaty. It’s defunct!
I’m so angry about so much to do with the developments around Maori and the Treaty. I’m angry because so many wet, wokish, Whitie w*nkers (the 4Ws!) are causing division, mistrust and hatred in our once sensible and balanced country. I’ve never felt less proud to be a Kiwi than I feel now.
I’m furious that so much of what’s happened in the past between Maori and non-Maori is now being misinterpreted and twisted to be negative. Take the Treaty. A simple, well-intentioned effort to enable a (primitive) native resident people to mix with settlers and together build a better life for all in a well-resourced, pleasant land.
Both parties were willing to form an agreement and that they did. The document was hastily cobbled together by non-lawyers (over 3 days!) and then translated into Maori as best could be done given the lack of some concepts and words in the Maori language.
Based off the transcripts of the debate at the signing (William Colenso) it’s reasonably clear that Maori knew what the Treaty meant. Maori ceded sovereignty, kept lands that were theirs, and become British subjects. There was intense debate at the signing. Some chiefs didn’t want to sign because they understood and didn’t agree. Fine. But eventually most did, and the Treaty was signed by the vast majority.
180 years later, what do we find? Bloody lawyers along with some scurrilous part-Maori plus the 4Ws, and the Waitangi Tribunal that is so biased, get amongst the Treaty document and do all they can to re-interpret the vague words to undermine the clear intention. So, they argue that Maori never ceded sovereignty but just “governorship” despite there being no discussion of that aspect at the time. They understood that they were giving up their chiefly authority…call it what you like! That a very specific use of the word “chieftainship” linked to ownership and control over their lands is distorted to mean a “partnership” or “co-governance” at a national level 180 years later. Rubbish! That in granting Maori “protection” as British subjects (just like the rest of us!) means that Maori are special and are entitled to equal outcomes irrespective of their efforts…or lack thereof!
The Treaty was never meant to be subject to intense scrutiny…it’s less than 600 words long and not a comprehensive legal agreement. It did its job and enabled Maori and newly arrived settlers to live together and start a new country. A wonderful country of equal opportunity. But this vague, incomplete and contradictory document is no longer relevant. It’s certainly not the basis to re-invent a new form of democracy that is based around ethnic divide. The rest of the world is trying to eliminate racism whereas successive governments in New Zealand are installing racial divide all through the legal, health, education and political systems. It’s a nonsense!
The Treaty reparations process began 40 years ago with the clear expectation that there would be an impartial review of wrongs, compensation paid where due and then move forward. An “envelope” of $1bn was tabled and most Kiwis shrugged and thought “let’s do it and get it over”. What do we find? The whole process has morphed and industry of lawyers getting rich from protracted negotiations and settlements getting larger and never ending. Plus our whole political system is spiralling into some weird form of non-elected “democracy” that isn’t democracy!
Scrap the Treaty. It’s defunct!