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The Daily Post Rotorua 4/10/16
VIVA EQUALITY FOR ALL
It was like a breath of fresh air to read in the Rotorua Daily Post that a lobby group is being formed to promote equality amongst all New Zealand citizens. Mind you what did shock me was that the word “controversy” was used. Surely equality is the cornerstone of our democratic society. To promote this can hardly be called controversial.
Nobody is superior because he or she happens to belong to any group, ethnic or otherwise. And, of course, nobody should be allowed to bypass our election system and get into a position of making decisions without citizens having to vote for them.
Lately we have come across some people who try to describe democracy as a dirty word, how awful, shame on them. I congratulate Don Brash for fighting the separatism that popped up its ugly head in our society. He has my full support.
H B
Rotorua
ENOUGH ALREADY
I don't think there are many people in New Zealand who do not acknowledge that Maori are the "people of the land". As such, they are given special rights and privileges.
But, like spoilt children, the more they are given the more they demand. If you give something to someone and he says "Thank you, that is nice" you are happy to give. If on the other hand he says "Yeh! That's not enough. Give me more" you naturally get a bit brassed off.
There are lots of things that are for Maori only. Maori All Blacks, Maori golf, Maori Music Awards, lots of grants for education. I cannot think of one thing that Pakeha can get that Maori are not also entitled to.
I was accosted in the corridor of the hospital by a Maori youth who said, "What are you doing here? This is our hospital, we own this land." Think what that did for my sympathy for the "poor underprivileged".
Maori gifted the land, but Pakeha provided the building, the staff and the equipment. Come on Maori! Admit that you are better off now than you ever were in 1800. Enjoy civilisation and let's all go forward into a united future.
M B
Rotorua
The New Zealand Herald 4/10/16
NOT SO VILE
Lizzie Marvelly’s column is misinformed and one-sided. This self-appointed arbiter of our social attitudes has, week after week, demonstrated attitudes one would expect of a part-Maori young feminist with little other than her own ingrained prejudice and selective morality to guide her.
She tries to discredit Don Brash’s “vile newspaper ads”, which I haven’t seen, but I am familiar with his, to me, very fair and equitable attitude towards all New Zealanders being “one nation, one people”; and her equally irrationally biased praise for the most useless apparatchik in the firmament, Dame Susan Devoy, Race Relations Commissioner, who it seems is dedicated more to furthering the Maori elite agenda of equal power sharing with the Crown than equality and fair treatment for all.
C. M,
Kaitaia.
NZ Herald 4/10/16 (Short & Sweet section)
ON RACISM
From various newspaper articles, radio programmes and social media, Don Brash and “Hobson’s Pledge” have certainly rattled some cages — and about time too.
GEOFF PARKER,
Kamo.
Dominion Post 4/10/16
TREATY 'TRUTH'
The Dominion Post reaction to Don Brash and "Hobson's Pledge" (Editorial, October 1) is a blatant distortion of the truth.
The second article of the Treaty of Waitangi does not mention the word "Maori" and is not a "guarantee of a serious amount of political power".
Your editorial writer should actually read the Treaty in which Article Two guarantees the property rights of "tangata katoa o Nu Tirani' which means "all the people of New Zealand" and "all" means "all"
Since British subjects possessed property rights anyway and Article Three gave such rights to all Maori (including the many slaves of other Maori), Brash is entirely correct in stating that Article Two is redundant.
Again, your editorial chants the modern nonsense about `Treaty partners" - a delusion of the late Robin Cooke (whom I knew personally) and an absurdity anywhere but in Alice's Wonderland which is New Zealand today.
BRUCE MOON
Nelson
Waikato Times 4/1/16
LIES, LIES, LIES
Being in a situation where they can manipulate the media those in power bombard us with messages that ‘‘all is well’’ when the underlying facts reveal a radically different story.
Recently we are told that New Zealand has a rock star economy – and that is in a nation with an insurmountable national debt (interest only on that debt is around $100 million each week) and the fact we owe more than $100 billion is swept under the carpet in the euphoria of announcing a budget surplus.
This is a debt that can never be repaid under our current monetary system and a terrible legacy for future generations.
We are being progressively led into poverty by incompetent political leaders whose only solution is to invent another tax. The most insidious tax ever invented is GST. Here we see someone who is already taxed on any income received from providing a service being doubly taxed for performing that service.
Another blatant lie is the benefit of unlimited free trade, but free trade agreements with slave-labour countries are the root cause of unemployment and poverty in our own nation. Local manufacturers cannot compete with cheap products that are flooding our markets and are either forced to shut up shop or move overseas. This may be helping developing nations, but it is destroying our own.
Then there is our nation’s true history, with our real indigenous people concealed under a mountain of political correctness and guilt-ridden appeasement.
MITCH MORGAN
Kaipara
Taranaki Daily News 4/10/16
HIKOI SUPPORT
The newspaper (Taranaki Daily News, September 22) had some details of a hikoi going to Owae Marae at Waitara. I would support their intention of having the unlawfully taken Waitara lands returned to their original owners, which is not Te Atiawa.The town side of the river - names of the original owners - are on the 1861 map drawn up by the second highest ranking Ngatiawa chief in Waitara, a copy of which is in the hands of the New Plymouth District Council.
Their hypocrisy is well demonstrated when they say we cannot change the law - but they have in Parliament, an Act to allow the lands to be sold and the monies put into a fund which will be bled for "expenses" by council nominees. It does not help the victims at all.
I understand the Hikoi started from Te Kohia (on the International Day of Peace) but why from there - a place of war? Why didn't it start from Kuikui where 200 Ngatiawa men, women and children had their homes burnt out by ancestors of Te Atiawa on 17 March, 1860. There would be a good starting place for Te Atiawa to say "sorry" on the Day of Peace.
But their leaders are still misleading, by referring to the lands as being "confiscated" when they were not ever legally confiscated, but taken by unlawful armed occupation actively supported by Te Atiawa.
R W
Waitara
VIVA EQUALITY FOR ALL
It was like a breath of fresh air to read in the Rotorua Daily Post that a lobby group is being formed to promote equality amongst all New Zealand citizens. Mind you what did shock me was that the word “controversy” was used. Surely equality is the cornerstone of our democratic society. To promote this can hardly be called controversial.
Nobody is superior because he or she happens to belong to any group, ethnic or otherwise. And, of course, nobody should be allowed to bypass our election system and get into a position of making decisions without citizens having to vote for them.
Lately we have come across some people who try to describe democracy as a dirty word, how awful, shame on them. I congratulate Don Brash for fighting the separatism that popped up its ugly head in our society. He has my full support.
H B
Rotorua
ENOUGH ALREADY
I don't think there are many people in New Zealand who do not acknowledge that Maori are the "people of the land". As such, they are given special rights and privileges.
But, like spoilt children, the more they are given the more they demand. If you give something to someone and he says "Thank you, that is nice" you are happy to give. If on the other hand he says "Yeh! That's not enough. Give me more" you naturally get a bit brassed off.
There are lots of things that are for Maori only. Maori All Blacks, Maori golf, Maori Music Awards, lots of grants for education. I cannot think of one thing that Pakeha can get that Maori are not also entitled to.
I was accosted in the corridor of the hospital by a Maori youth who said, "What are you doing here? This is our hospital, we own this land." Think what that did for my sympathy for the "poor underprivileged".
Maori gifted the land, but Pakeha provided the building, the staff and the equipment. Come on Maori! Admit that you are better off now than you ever were in 1800. Enjoy civilisation and let's all go forward into a united future.
M B
Rotorua
The New Zealand Herald 4/10/16
NOT SO VILE
Lizzie Marvelly’s column is misinformed and one-sided. This self-appointed arbiter of our social attitudes has, week after week, demonstrated attitudes one would expect of a part-Maori young feminist with little other than her own ingrained prejudice and selective morality to guide her.
She tries to discredit Don Brash’s “vile newspaper ads”, which I haven’t seen, but I am familiar with his, to me, very fair and equitable attitude towards all New Zealanders being “one nation, one people”; and her equally irrationally biased praise for the most useless apparatchik in the firmament, Dame Susan Devoy, Race Relations Commissioner, who it seems is dedicated more to furthering the Maori elite agenda of equal power sharing with the Crown than equality and fair treatment for all.
C. M,
Kaitaia.
NZ Herald 4/10/16 (Short & Sweet section)
ON RACISM
From various newspaper articles, radio programmes and social media, Don Brash and “Hobson’s Pledge” have certainly rattled some cages — and about time too.
GEOFF PARKER,
Kamo.
Dominion Post 4/10/16
TREATY 'TRUTH'
The Dominion Post reaction to Don Brash and "Hobson's Pledge" (Editorial, October 1) is a blatant distortion of the truth.
The second article of the Treaty of Waitangi does not mention the word "Maori" and is not a "guarantee of a serious amount of political power".
Your editorial writer should actually read the Treaty in which Article Two guarantees the property rights of "tangata katoa o Nu Tirani' which means "all the people of New Zealand" and "all" means "all"
Since British subjects possessed property rights anyway and Article Three gave such rights to all Maori (including the many slaves of other Maori), Brash is entirely correct in stating that Article Two is redundant.
Again, your editorial chants the modern nonsense about `Treaty partners" - a delusion of the late Robin Cooke (whom I knew personally) and an absurdity anywhere but in Alice's Wonderland which is New Zealand today.
BRUCE MOON
Nelson
Waikato Times 4/1/16
LIES, LIES, LIES
Being in a situation where they can manipulate the media those in power bombard us with messages that ‘‘all is well’’ when the underlying facts reveal a radically different story.
Recently we are told that New Zealand has a rock star economy – and that is in a nation with an insurmountable national debt (interest only on that debt is around $100 million each week) and the fact we owe more than $100 billion is swept under the carpet in the euphoria of announcing a budget surplus.
This is a debt that can never be repaid under our current monetary system and a terrible legacy for future generations.
We are being progressively led into poverty by incompetent political leaders whose only solution is to invent another tax. The most insidious tax ever invented is GST. Here we see someone who is already taxed on any income received from providing a service being doubly taxed for performing that service.
Another blatant lie is the benefit of unlimited free trade, but free trade agreements with slave-labour countries are the root cause of unemployment and poverty in our own nation. Local manufacturers cannot compete with cheap products that are flooding our markets and are either forced to shut up shop or move overseas. This may be helping developing nations, but it is destroying our own.
Then there is our nation’s true history, with our real indigenous people concealed under a mountain of political correctness and guilt-ridden appeasement.
MITCH MORGAN
Kaipara
Taranaki Daily News 4/10/16
HIKOI SUPPORT
The newspaper (Taranaki Daily News, September 22) had some details of a hikoi going to Owae Marae at Waitara. I would support their intention of having the unlawfully taken Waitara lands returned to their original owners, which is not Te Atiawa.The town side of the river - names of the original owners - are on the 1861 map drawn up by the second highest ranking Ngatiawa chief in Waitara, a copy of which is in the hands of the New Plymouth District Council.
Their hypocrisy is well demonstrated when they say we cannot change the law - but they have in Parliament, an Act to allow the lands to be sold and the monies put into a fund which will be bled for "expenses" by council nominees. It does not help the victims at all.
I understand the Hikoi started from Te Kohia (on the International Day of Peace) but why from there - a place of war? Why didn't it start from Kuikui where 200 Ngatiawa men, women and children had their homes burnt out by ancestors of Te Atiawa on 17 March, 1860. There would be a good starting place for Te Atiawa to say "sorry" on the Day of Peace.
But their leaders are still misleading, by referring to the lands as being "confiscated" when they were not ever legally confiscated, but taken by unlawful armed occupation actively supported by Te Atiawa.
R W
Waitara