Post by Kiwi Frontline on Nov 21, 2016 5:31:12 GMT 12
Northern Advocate 19/11/16
PALMER'S VERSION
I hear a lot about the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi, and have been wondering what they are and where they have come from. Also there has been talk about a partnership with the Crown. There is no mention of a partnership either.
On checking, I find that these principles and partnerships were added some 130 years later by Sir Geoffrey Palmer, among others, who have decided to rewrite the history of the Maori, store the old books of history out of sight and mind, and that this is the reason for the current fiasco. Is this the same Geoffrey Palmer who wants New Zealand to become a republic? It seem he wants his cake and to eat it as well. You can't have it both ways.
I'm beginning to wonder if they are handing out knighthoods with packets of tea! It will take a prime minister with a bit if intestinal fortitude to get rid of the Maori Party in Parliament, sack the Waitangi Tribunal, get rid of one of the two Maori TV channels, all of which are an albatross around our necks (with apologies to Samuel Taylor Coleridge), and declare that we are now one people as Governor William Hobson stated at the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi! On that day New Zealand will become a democracy.
Maori were not the first people in New Zealand. That privilege belongs to the Patupal a reh e, Waitaha and Turehu people, who were decimated by certain Maori tribes on their arrival.
KEVAN C MARKS
Kaipara
TE REO A MIXTURE
Maori Development Minister Te Ururoa Flavell announced, "We must normalise te reo Maori" so that New Zealanders can " ... start their te reo Maori journey".
Perhaps the minister is un-aware that not only have non-Maori started their journey but are major contributors to what is now called the Maori language.
When the early colonists arrived the Maori vocabulary consisted of approximately 40,000 words. It is now probably more than 450,00 words, with the additional 110,000 being variations of the English language, dropping consonants for which Maori had no equivalent and adding vowels at the end.
For example let us consider the very English name John Hadfield. No letter J in the Maori alphabet, so substitute H. Since all Maori words end in a vowel let's add an 'e'. Result —John equals Hone. Now for Hadfield. 'Ha' is OK but no 'd', so replace with 'ra'; no T so use 'w' the letters lie' become i, and as there is no 'I' or 'd replace with 'ra' so it ends in a vowel. So now what do we have? Surprise, surprise — Hone Harawira, whose given name at birth was John Hadfield.
The same applies to many "Maori" names and variations on words borrowed from the English language. A few years ago two (no doubt well-paid) Maori scholars proudly announced they had invented 10,000 new Maori words in the preceding year, those words all being "converted" from the English language. So far from preserving the original Maori tongue, we are being fed a conglomeration of two languages rolled into one. Perhaps part-Maori children attending total immersion schools would better understand the origins of te reo if they learnt the English language first.
MITCH MORGAN
Kaipara
Bay of Plenty Times 19/11/16
END FOR NATIONAL
Donald Trump successfully dealt to the "rotten to the core" Washington establishment, doing the American public a big favour. Yes, he's possibly loosely wrapped and maybe not ideal but was clearly better than the opposition and some of his policies actually make sense.
With the Trump landslide, Brexit and other looming political changes about to sweep through Europe and even Australia, the National Party have every reason to fear the October 2017 elections.
Mr Key's policies including RMA, freshwater, race-based (elected and unelected) representation on councils/com-mittees, TPP, the flag referendum, housing stuff-ups, immigration and tribal uprisings commemoration day all effectively done without public consultation — will be the death knell for Key and his robotic bootlickers.
Grovelling to the Maori Party is just another nail in the coffin.
Voters will have the opportunity to dismiss this National Govemment, bypassing the inane Labour/Greens coalition, by giving their 2017 party vote to NZ First which at least supports what most Kiwis believe in, and this should translate into 20.25 seats, enough to hold the balance of power.
A word of warning to the National Party backsliders: "Ask not for whom the bell tolls —it tolls for thee." And good riddance too. (Abridged.)
R P
Matapihi
PALMER'S VERSION
I hear a lot about the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi, and have been wondering what they are and where they have come from. Also there has been talk about a partnership with the Crown. There is no mention of a partnership either.
On checking, I find that these principles and partnerships were added some 130 years later by Sir Geoffrey Palmer, among others, who have decided to rewrite the history of the Maori, store the old books of history out of sight and mind, and that this is the reason for the current fiasco. Is this the same Geoffrey Palmer who wants New Zealand to become a republic? It seem he wants his cake and to eat it as well. You can't have it both ways.
I'm beginning to wonder if they are handing out knighthoods with packets of tea! It will take a prime minister with a bit if intestinal fortitude to get rid of the Maori Party in Parliament, sack the Waitangi Tribunal, get rid of one of the two Maori TV channels, all of which are an albatross around our necks (with apologies to Samuel Taylor Coleridge), and declare that we are now one people as Governor William Hobson stated at the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi! On that day New Zealand will become a democracy.
Maori were not the first people in New Zealand. That privilege belongs to the Patupal a reh e, Waitaha and Turehu people, who were decimated by certain Maori tribes on their arrival.
KEVAN C MARKS
Kaipara
TE REO A MIXTURE
Maori Development Minister Te Ururoa Flavell announced, "We must normalise te reo Maori" so that New Zealanders can " ... start their te reo Maori journey".
Perhaps the minister is un-aware that not only have non-Maori started their journey but are major contributors to what is now called the Maori language.
When the early colonists arrived the Maori vocabulary consisted of approximately 40,000 words. It is now probably more than 450,00 words, with the additional 110,000 being variations of the English language, dropping consonants for which Maori had no equivalent and adding vowels at the end.
For example let us consider the very English name John Hadfield. No letter J in the Maori alphabet, so substitute H. Since all Maori words end in a vowel let's add an 'e'. Result —John equals Hone. Now for Hadfield. 'Ha' is OK but no 'd', so replace with 'ra'; no T so use 'w' the letters lie' become i, and as there is no 'I' or 'd replace with 'ra' so it ends in a vowel. So now what do we have? Surprise, surprise — Hone Harawira, whose given name at birth was John Hadfield.
The same applies to many "Maori" names and variations on words borrowed from the English language. A few years ago two (no doubt well-paid) Maori scholars proudly announced they had invented 10,000 new Maori words in the preceding year, those words all being "converted" from the English language. So far from preserving the original Maori tongue, we are being fed a conglomeration of two languages rolled into one. Perhaps part-Maori children attending total immersion schools would better understand the origins of te reo if they learnt the English language first.
MITCH MORGAN
Kaipara
Bay of Plenty Times 19/11/16
END FOR NATIONAL
Donald Trump successfully dealt to the "rotten to the core" Washington establishment, doing the American public a big favour. Yes, he's possibly loosely wrapped and maybe not ideal but was clearly better than the opposition and some of his policies actually make sense.
With the Trump landslide, Brexit and other looming political changes about to sweep through Europe and even Australia, the National Party have every reason to fear the October 2017 elections.
Mr Key's policies including RMA, freshwater, race-based (elected and unelected) representation on councils/com-mittees, TPP, the flag referendum, housing stuff-ups, immigration and tribal uprisings commemoration day all effectively done without public consultation — will be the death knell for Key and his robotic bootlickers.
Grovelling to the Maori Party is just another nail in the coffin.
Voters will have the opportunity to dismiss this National Govemment, bypassing the inane Labour/Greens coalition, by giving their 2017 party vote to NZ First which at least supports what most Kiwis believe in, and this should translate into 20.25 seats, enough to hold the balance of power.
A word of warning to the National Party backsliders: "Ask not for whom the bell tolls —it tolls for thee." And good riddance too. (Abridged.)
R P
Matapihi