Post by Kiwi Frontline on Mar 31, 2016 9:38:35 GMT 12
Northland Age 31/3/16
WHAT RACISM?
Labour MP Kelvin Davis fails to present any evidence to support his allegation of unfair treatment of Maori by Corrections staff. The allegation, like the accusation of "unconscious bias" against Maori by police, is largely an untruth from the Maori Party that is treated as a fact after widespread repetition.
Maori Party co-leader Te Ururoa Flavell raised the issue three years ((go when he told Parliament that "for the 3495 theft apprehensions recorded as Caucasian there were 588 prosecutions and for Maori, for the 5660 apprehensions recorded,1173 resulted in prosecution". The prosecution rates for non-Maori were 16.8 per cent versus 20.7 per cent for Maori, which did support Flavell's argument, but only by a slender margin of 3.9 per cent. The data came from police statistics for 2011, and looked at prosecution vs total apprehension numbers for 10- to 16-year-olds.
However, with 5660 thefts by Maori recorded, compared with 3495 non-Maori, not only were there more thefts by Maori recorded, but there were proportionally many more since Maori only make up 16 percent of the population.
A question both MPs should answer—should an offender with more non-Maori ancestry than Maori be classified as a Maori offender? If offenders were reclassified on the basis that an offender required at least 51 percent Maori ancestry to be regarded as Maori, offending by Maori would pale into insignificance. Then we would simply be having a debate about the high rate of youth offending without trying to claim that police, courts, and Corrections are picking on Maori.
MIKE BUTLER
Hastings
OBLIVIOUS
I was very pleased to read Reuben Chapple's letter exposing MP Chris Finlayson's insult, calling taxpayers "KKK" when the former rightly object to seeing their money handed over, behind closed doors, to very dubious claims of land loss almost 170 years ago, to British colonists.
To date over $3 billion has disappeared into the bank accounts of ever-more-demanding tribes with no clear explanation to the public as to what so-called "claims" are being settled.
All "claims" ought to be debated in an open court with lawyers representing tribes—which they should pay for out of their gains—and lawyers protecting taxpayers hard-earned money.
Finlayson seems to be oblivious of the fact that tribal chiefs -prior to Governor Hobson's arrival in 1840 —had gone to NSW and had contracts in place to sell large tracts of New Zealand to overseas buyers. When Hobson was told of this, he cancelled the contracts and gave the land back to Maori. The contracts are there and can be read today, as can the hundreds of contracts between Maori and settlers for the sale to the latter, of Maori-owned land. These contracts can be viewed on the Victoria University website.
Finlayson informs us that there are still many "claims" to be settled. On what grounds? 'the public of New Zealand has the right to know in minute detail, the basic facts of the "claims" and the right to debate them in public.
Finlayson must be one of the most detested men in Parliament, as he has said there are those who have asked him to die. He will eventually, of course, but it would be simpler if he was demoted or resigned before squandering billions more taxpayers' money.
C T
Tauranga
Southland Times 31/3/16
MULTICULTURALISM
John Key has misread the nation on his flag proposal, just as he is misreading the majority of the population on proposals to give more value and racial bias to maori over and above other citizens.
The flag referenda manipulated the nations thoughts away from the real issues of TPPA, changes to the RMA and the proposals to give management of Freshwater to unelected maori representation. The nations rising anger against multiculturalism, immigration, race based agendas in Government and institutions, The Waitangi Tribunal, political manipulation of the media, crazy tax laws that have multinational corporations paying minimal taxes to the IRD, ridiculous tax exemptions for hugely profitable charitable organisations, and finally the $60 billion debt National has racked up during their tenure which will have to be repaid by our children and grandchildren.
We, in New Zealand do NOT live in a democracy, it is the lobbyists who run this country to the detriment of millions of fair minded, hardworking kiwis. Political capital and expediency does not equate with good governance.
M J A
Tauranga
WHAT RACISM?
Labour MP Kelvin Davis fails to present any evidence to support his allegation of unfair treatment of Maori by Corrections staff. The allegation, like the accusation of "unconscious bias" against Maori by police, is largely an untruth from the Maori Party that is treated as a fact after widespread repetition.
Maori Party co-leader Te Ururoa Flavell raised the issue three years ((go when he told Parliament that "for the 3495 theft apprehensions recorded as Caucasian there were 588 prosecutions and for Maori, for the 5660 apprehensions recorded,1173 resulted in prosecution". The prosecution rates for non-Maori were 16.8 per cent versus 20.7 per cent for Maori, which did support Flavell's argument, but only by a slender margin of 3.9 per cent. The data came from police statistics for 2011, and looked at prosecution vs total apprehension numbers for 10- to 16-year-olds.
However, with 5660 thefts by Maori recorded, compared with 3495 non-Maori, not only were there more thefts by Maori recorded, but there were proportionally many more since Maori only make up 16 percent of the population.
A question both MPs should answer—should an offender with more non-Maori ancestry than Maori be classified as a Maori offender? If offenders were reclassified on the basis that an offender required at least 51 percent Maori ancestry to be regarded as Maori, offending by Maori would pale into insignificance. Then we would simply be having a debate about the high rate of youth offending without trying to claim that police, courts, and Corrections are picking on Maori.
MIKE BUTLER
Hastings
OBLIVIOUS
I was very pleased to read Reuben Chapple's letter exposing MP Chris Finlayson's insult, calling taxpayers "KKK" when the former rightly object to seeing their money handed over, behind closed doors, to very dubious claims of land loss almost 170 years ago, to British colonists.
To date over $3 billion has disappeared into the bank accounts of ever-more-demanding tribes with no clear explanation to the public as to what so-called "claims" are being settled.
All "claims" ought to be debated in an open court with lawyers representing tribes—which they should pay for out of their gains—and lawyers protecting taxpayers hard-earned money.
Finlayson seems to be oblivious of the fact that tribal chiefs -prior to Governor Hobson's arrival in 1840 —had gone to NSW and had contracts in place to sell large tracts of New Zealand to overseas buyers. When Hobson was told of this, he cancelled the contracts and gave the land back to Maori. The contracts are there and can be read today, as can the hundreds of contracts between Maori and settlers for the sale to the latter, of Maori-owned land. These contracts can be viewed on the Victoria University website.
Finlayson informs us that there are still many "claims" to be settled. On what grounds? 'the public of New Zealand has the right to know in minute detail, the basic facts of the "claims" and the right to debate them in public.
Finlayson must be one of the most detested men in Parliament, as he has said there are those who have asked him to die. He will eventually, of course, but it would be simpler if he was demoted or resigned before squandering billions more taxpayers' money.
C T
Tauranga
Southland Times 31/3/16
MULTICULTURALISM
John Key has misread the nation on his flag proposal, just as he is misreading the majority of the population on proposals to give more value and racial bias to maori over and above other citizens.
The flag referenda manipulated the nations thoughts away from the real issues of TPPA, changes to the RMA and the proposals to give management of Freshwater to unelected maori representation. The nations rising anger against multiculturalism, immigration, race based agendas in Government and institutions, The Waitangi Tribunal, political manipulation of the media, crazy tax laws that have multinational corporations paying minimal taxes to the IRD, ridiculous tax exemptions for hugely profitable charitable organisations, and finally the $60 billion debt National has racked up during their tenure which will have to be repaid by our children and grandchildren.
We, in New Zealand do NOT live in a democracy, it is the lobbyists who run this country to the detriment of millions of fair minded, hardworking kiwis. Political capital and expediency does not equate with good governance.
M J A
Tauranga