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Otago Daily Times 4/6/19
IWI SEATS
THE debate about Ngai Tahu representatives on the policy committee of the ORC appears to have avoided one issue.
Who will they actually be representing — themselves as kaitiaki, their particular marae, their rununga, or Ngai Tahu Holdings?
In any case, it must be asked if the same rules governing conflict of interest applies to the Ngai Tahu representatives as it does to other ORC members.
Especially in the vexed case of Central Otago water rights. And especially when revered kaumatua Sir Tipene O’Regan, at a Wanaka forum recently, supported damming more rivers. In whose interests would this be, exactly?
PHILIP TEMPLE, Dunedin
Northland Age 4/6/19
TALL STORIES
Once again the NZ Listener, through the article by Sally Blundell and the reportage of Vincent O’Malley, presents a very selective account of our history without presenting opposing views.
O’Malley’s version of the action at Rangioawhia relied entirely on the oral history of Tainui, and varies considerably from the official account that includes the version given by the chief’s grandson.
The church that he claimed was filled with women and children by the colonial forces and set alight was still standing for years afterwards.
The total fatalities of the action came to nine. O’Malley’s claim that the Waikato engagements have more significance than the Western Front or Gallipoli is a gross exaggeration.
He also reported the ‘invasion of the Crown.’ A country cannot invade itself. The Tainui Kingites were seen by Sir Apirana Ngata and the 128 chiefs at the 1860 Kohimarama Conference as a rebellion against the legal authority of the Crown, and their loss of land was legally justified.
O’Malley and other historians, like Orange and Belich, are very selective in their reportage to avoid including facts that might show Maori in a less than favourable light, like the slaughtering rampages of Hongi Hika, Te Rauparaha and Te Kooti, or the 30,000-plus fatalities of the Musket Wars. The tribal customs of infanticide, ritual killings, cannibalism and slavery get no mention in their recordings.
Our history, or the public, will not be well served while the Listener and most of the print media refuse objective reportage of contrary opinions and politicians promote racial privilege.
BRYAN JOHNSON, Omokoroa
SHRINKING DEMOCRACY
Local body elections coming up and already the shenanigans have started in Rotorua.
Council member and resident snowflake Tania Tapsell was ‘referenced’ as a Pied Piper by Reynold Macpherson, who is campaigning for mayor. Stevie Chadwick, the present mayor, and her cohorts see Macpherson as a real threat after she only scraped in against him last time around, and after a secret meeting of council they decided to take this to the police as hate speech.
After the horrific events in Christchurch it is becoming plain to see that hate speech is being used as a tool against anyone who has a different opinion than the Nanny State we are slowing being taken over by.
The only claims to fame Stevie and her minions have to campaign on in the coming elections are bringing race-based council to Rotorua after being told by locals they didn’t want it, and a green corridor running through the CBD that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and was never used, now being torn up.
How corrupt are the race baiters going to get? Trying to hobble opponents with accusations of hate speech because they have no merits to stand on.
Get out and question the people who are running for your council, ask them what their motives are. We don’t want people pushing their separatist ideology or pinko socialist ideas down our throats.
Spend our money wisely keeping the roads clean and in repair, make sure the rubbish is picked up. This is not China, North Korea or Russia. Well, not yet anyway.
REX ANDERSON, Lower Hutt
ILLEGAL SQUATTERS
Anahera Herbert-Graves regurgitates the ‘ploughmen of Parihaka’ (May 28).
The thrust of that matter was that for 14 years these Parihaka people illegally squatted on legally confiscated land (result of earlier tribal rebellion). As she admits, they wreaked havoc on neighbouring settler farms by ploughing fields. Other recorded incidences involved stealing horses, the pulling down of a newly built stockyard, placing a toll on passing travellers and harassing storekeepers.
This den of ‘pacifists’ also harboured fugitives from the law, kept company with rebel Hau Haus, and were found to have a stockpile of 250 firearms and ammunition.
Later she touches on Bastion Point. Records show that most of Auckland was sold by the tribes except for 5.3ha at Bastion Point, which was taken under the Public Works Act for military use in 1886; £1500 was paid in compensation.
In today’s money, £1500 equals approximately $282,000. The median price per hectare of New Zealand farmland in April 2015 was $28,668. This means government compensation in 1886 was approximately double the per hectare value of Bastion Point land. Ngati Whatua was more than adequately compensated for Bastion Point in 1886.
In her article she quotes that “. . . the protest and eviction led to the establishment of the Waitangi Tribunal. . .” The facts are that the Waitangi Tribunal was established in 1975 and the Bastion Point eviction was approximately three years later, in 1978. Further, Whina Cooper’s land march arrived at Parliament three days after the Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975 was passed.
Need I say more?
GEOFF PARKER, Kamo
sites.google.com/site/kiwifrontline/letters-submitted-to-newspapers
IWI SEATS
THE debate about Ngai Tahu representatives on the policy committee of the ORC appears to have avoided one issue.
Who will they actually be representing — themselves as kaitiaki, their particular marae, their rununga, or Ngai Tahu Holdings?
In any case, it must be asked if the same rules governing conflict of interest applies to the Ngai Tahu representatives as it does to other ORC members.
Especially in the vexed case of Central Otago water rights. And especially when revered kaumatua Sir Tipene O’Regan, at a Wanaka forum recently, supported damming more rivers. In whose interests would this be, exactly?
PHILIP TEMPLE, Dunedin
Northland Age 4/6/19
TALL STORIES
Once again the NZ Listener, through the article by Sally Blundell and the reportage of Vincent O’Malley, presents a very selective account of our history without presenting opposing views.
O’Malley’s version of the action at Rangioawhia relied entirely on the oral history of Tainui, and varies considerably from the official account that includes the version given by the chief’s grandson.
The church that he claimed was filled with women and children by the colonial forces and set alight was still standing for years afterwards.
The total fatalities of the action came to nine. O’Malley’s claim that the Waikato engagements have more significance than the Western Front or Gallipoli is a gross exaggeration.
He also reported the ‘invasion of the Crown.’ A country cannot invade itself. The Tainui Kingites were seen by Sir Apirana Ngata and the 128 chiefs at the 1860 Kohimarama Conference as a rebellion against the legal authority of the Crown, and their loss of land was legally justified.
O’Malley and other historians, like Orange and Belich, are very selective in their reportage to avoid including facts that might show Maori in a less than favourable light, like the slaughtering rampages of Hongi Hika, Te Rauparaha and Te Kooti, or the 30,000-plus fatalities of the Musket Wars. The tribal customs of infanticide, ritual killings, cannibalism and slavery get no mention in their recordings.
Our history, or the public, will not be well served while the Listener and most of the print media refuse objective reportage of contrary opinions and politicians promote racial privilege.
BRYAN JOHNSON, Omokoroa
SHRINKING DEMOCRACY
Local body elections coming up and already the shenanigans have started in Rotorua.
Council member and resident snowflake Tania Tapsell was ‘referenced’ as a Pied Piper by Reynold Macpherson, who is campaigning for mayor. Stevie Chadwick, the present mayor, and her cohorts see Macpherson as a real threat after she only scraped in against him last time around, and after a secret meeting of council they decided to take this to the police as hate speech.
After the horrific events in Christchurch it is becoming plain to see that hate speech is being used as a tool against anyone who has a different opinion than the Nanny State we are slowing being taken over by.
The only claims to fame Stevie and her minions have to campaign on in the coming elections are bringing race-based council to Rotorua after being told by locals they didn’t want it, and a green corridor running through the CBD that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and was never used, now being torn up.
How corrupt are the race baiters going to get? Trying to hobble opponents with accusations of hate speech because they have no merits to stand on.
Get out and question the people who are running for your council, ask them what their motives are. We don’t want people pushing their separatist ideology or pinko socialist ideas down our throats.
Spend our money wisely keeping the roads clean and in repair, make sure the rubbish is picked up. This is not China, North Korea or Russia. Well, not yet anyway.
REX ANDERSON, Lower Hutt
ILLEGAL SQUATTERS
Anahera Herbert-Graves regurgitates the ‘ploughmen of Parihaka’ (May 28).
The thrust of that matter was that for 14 years these Parihaka people illegally squatted on legally confiscated land (result of earlier tribal rebellion). As she admits, they wreaked havoc on neighbouring settler farms by ploughing fields. Other recorded incidences involved stealing horses, the pulling down of a newly built stockyard, placing a toll on passing travellers and harassing storekeepers.
This den of ‘pacifists’ also harboured fugitives from the law, kept company with rebel Hau Haus, and were found to have a stockpile of 250 firearms and ammunition.
Later she touches on Bastion Point. Records show that most of Auckland was sold by the tribes except for 5.3ha at Bastion Point, which was taken under the Public Works Act for military use in 1886; £1500 was paid in compensation.
In today’s money, £1500 equals approximately $282,000. The median price per hectare of New Zealand farmland in April 2015 was $28,668. This means government compensation in 1886 was approximately double the per hectare value of Bastion Point land. Ngati Whatua was more than adequately compensated for Bastion Point in 1886.
In her article she quotes that “. . . the protest and eviction led to the establishment of the Waitangi Tribunal. . .” The facts are that the Waitangi Tribunal was established in 1975 and the Bastion Point eviction was approximately three years later, in 1978. Further, Whina Cooper’s land march arrived at Parliament three days after the Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975 was passed.
Need I say more?
GEOFF PARKER, Kamo
sites.google.com/site/kiwifrontline/letters-submitted-to-newspapers