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Northland Age 26/5/16
FEEBLE STINGS
Predictably, my article on the Bicultural Myth (flay 12) stirred up a couple of hornets, though their stings are pretty feeble. My "garrulous" letter, says IF Burke, when his is a prize example! (May 19)
But first let me correct my small error, as I am always ready to do. On checking, I find that what Te Rauparaha said was"'Tis death! Tis death!" and not what I stated. Well, so be it. But yes, my words— he was indeed "a baby-eating savage". On one of his murderous southern raids he ripped open the belly of a pregnant Maori woman, tore out her foetus, cooked and ate it. Southerners remember.
Has Burke conveniently forgotten the slaughter inflicted on other Maori by Hongi with his muskets — about 2000 at Maui mai na Pa, Tamaki, on September 5, 1821, followed by a cannibal feast until even the Ngapuhi were driven away by the stench of decaying bodies?
Or their treacherous capture of Ngati-Maru pa, Te Totara, a few months later, and wholesale slaughter of the inhabitants? Or their taking of the Waikato pa Matakitaki, when Ngapuhi fired down on those trapped in a defensive ditch until tired of reloading? Is this the sort of "culture" he prefers?
As for the French— a major reason for many chiefs signing the treaty was the mortal fear in which they were held. In 1831 13 Ngapuhi chiefs wrote to King William saying, "We have heard that the tribe of Marion is at hand, coming to takeaway our land. We pray thee to become our friend and the guardian of these islands." Enough said?
I cannot give IF Burke a full history lesson in one short article, but can refer him to things to read to improve his mind. He need only ask.
And English— yes, its genius is its adaptation of words from many sources to make it the richest language ever created, but mangreloid? Is Burke himself not of mixed ancestry?
All over the world there are people wanting to learn or improve their knowledge of English I can attest to that from first-hand experience.
As for Wally Hicks, can he affirm that his lifestyle/culture is very different from that of the typical Maori as I described it? Even his name is English. He could check what I wrote before he wraps the garbage in it for collection by the council garbage truck —part of his British culture too, note.
Would he prefer to ignore it and let the garbage accumulate in the back yard? He goes on: "Bruce Moon and company interminably claim to know exactly what Maori understood and intended on Fehruary 6, 1840." Well, actually, we have read the careful record of proceedings by Colenso (easily Googled), who was there, and this does not leave a shadow of doubt that the chiefs knew that by signing the treaty they ceded sovereignty. Of course we have the recent culpably untrue claims by one Haami Piripi and others that Ngapuhi never did, predictably supported by the corrupt Waitangi Tribunal, which always accepts such statements, no matter how untrue.
As for Haami Piripi himself I'd lay even money that he was Jimmy Phillips at school. And Atearoa? A bogus name for our country. These fellows should look in the Treaty of Waitangi to see if they can find it there. Nobody mentioned it on February 6.
Well, e hoa, there is plenty of fight left in me yet, and I shall continue to uphold the truth and oppose those who do not until my pen runs dry. You can be sure of that
BRUCE MOON
Nelson
HE'S A WIGGER
When I was at university, we called those who think [sic] like Andrew Judd Wiggers.' A 'wigger is someone who reflexively rats out their own race and culture for the warm glow that comes from lining up with supposedly "oppressed" peoples.
Like all Western countries, New Zealand has a raft of these self-despising, West-hating socialist traitors, both in our universities and amongst the tertiary-educated, who have been helped by their communist lecturers to see that whites are to blame for all the evils of the world. These are people who told us three decades ago that apartheid was a social and moral evil in South Africa. Now they're telling us that it's a social and moral good in New Zealand.
Whether apartheid is to be decried or endorsed is based entirely on the skin colour of its beneficiaries.
Whites always deserve a good kicking.
Leftists despise their own culture.
They've been schooled to hate Western civilisation and regard Western countries as racist, sexist, colonialist oppressors. They desperately want to see other cultures as somehow morally superior to our own. They're not TheJudeo-Christian culture that originated in Athens, Rome and Jerusalem, then took root in Europe before being exported worldwide, is vastly superior to other cultures.
Many non-whites have also benefited massively in adopting Western cultural norms and values. This fact is undeniable to anyone except a moron.
Wiggers are people who have learned that the highest status in our society goes to anyone who can claim to be a member of a Marxist-designated race, gender, class, or sexual preference-based 'victim' group. For those who can't claim such membership, the next best thing is to be a totally supine, grovelling and penitent member of a 'victimiser' group— a rescuer. That's why liberal wiggers like Judd and Gareth Morgan seek moral preening opportunities for 'saving' the [part] Maori.
There is no reason for us to elevate Maori culture to an undeserved pre-eminence. By any objective standard, the sum total of its contribution to human felicity is an ugly, gesticulating, tongue-poking, eye-rolling, thigh slapping war dance of limited curiosity value when deployed before a rugby match. If anyone can show otherwise, let them step up to the plate.
Racism is often conflated by leftists with simple prejudice, which it is not.
Principled opposition to unearned racial privilege and the belief that newcomers should be welcomed but required to conform to Judeo-Christian cultural norms is not racism. Nor is it typically evidence of prejudice.
Racism occurs where a group of prejudiced individuals get together to create a system affording them separate, different, or superior rights to everyone else on the basis of group membership. I will leave it to readers to decide if New Zealand is a racist country, and if so, which group benefits most from this racism.
REUBEN CHAPPLE
Auckland
The New Zealand Herald 26/5/16
AN ADOPTED S
Your correspondent Ms le Prou remains linguistically muddled when she again chides Alan Duff for spelling the plural form of the word Maori with an ‘s’.
What she does not acknowledge is that he has written his column in English, not Maori. When words are borrowed from one language, it is absolutely regular that they undergo adaptation to the conventions of the adopting language. This is certainly what happens when English words become loan words in Maori, for example “horse” and “beer” becoming “hoiho” and “pia”.
Duff prefers to add the ‘s’ on occasion, as do I, because he believes it suits his writing better. Nothing to be criticised for in that.
B M
Grey Lynn.
Wanganui Chronicle 26/5/16
LIVING IN PAST
I think it's time Maori should drop the past and come into the 21st century. If they want to be on the council, they should stand just like everyone else. They have the numbers in Whanganui to vote for them if they are so concerned at Maori representation. (Abridged.)
B. D
Dannevirke
VEILED BAR
In response to Gaylene Kendrick's comments entitled "Beware of Brash tactics", I would hope the Year 13 students she refers to are mature and perceptive enough to recognise veiled censorship when they see it.
Readers who prefer to make their own judgments, and who believe in New Zealand's secular democracy and the right to free speech, will be able to draw their own conclusions as to why Ms Kendrick does not want you to read One Treaty, One Nation.
By the way, Don Brash is one of eight authors who have contributed to the book, which contains a brief biography for each author.
May I recommend people start by reading chapters 1 and 2 by Bruce Moon, and then read the preceding section en-titled "Some of the myths on which the Treaty industry is based". (Abridged.)
C L
Tauranga
Wairarapa Times-Age 26/5/16 (Texts section)
■ Fair to say, not many agree with the proposed token seats being given to Maori, with out ratepayer consultation. Hope Patterson and McC lymont start listening to those who vote.
■ good on Gary and Brent has the rest of council got the guts to reverse iwi reps
■ why cant Maori build houses for their needy from the 93 million dollars and all the land they have been given on a plate?
FEEBLE STINGS
Predictably, my article on the Bicultural Myth (flay 12) stirred up a couple of hornets, though their stings are pretty feeble. My "garrulous" letter, says IF Burke, when his is a prize example! (May 19)
But first let me correct my small error, as I am always ready to do. On checking, I find that what Te Rauparaha said was"'Tis death! Tis death!" and not what I stated. Well, so be it. But yes, my words— he was indeed "a baby-eating savage". On one of his murderous southern raids he ripped open the belly of a pregnant Maori woman, tore out her foetus, cooked and ate it. Southerners remember.
Has Burke conveniently forgotten the slaughter inflicted on other Maori by Hongi with his muskets — about 2000 at Maui mai na Pa, Tamaki, on September 5, 1821, followed by a cannibal feast until even the Ngapuhi were driven away by the stench of decaying bodies?
Or their treacherous capture of Ngati-Maru pa, Te Totara, a few months later, and wholesale slaughter of the inhabitants? Or their taking of the Waikato pa Matakitaki, when Ngapuhi fired down on those trapped in a defensive ditch until tired of reloading? Is this the sort of "culture" he prefers?
As for the French— a major reason for many chiefs signing the treaty was the mortal fear in which they were held. In 1831 13 Ngapuhi chiefs wrote to King William saying, "We have heard that the tribe of Marion is at hand, coming to takeaway our land. We pray thee to become our friend and the guardian of these islands." Enough said?
I cannot give IF Burke a full history lesson in one short article, but can refer him to things to read to improve his mind. He need only ask.
And English— yes, its genius is its adaptation of words from many sources to make it the richest language ever created, but mangreloid? Is Burke himself not of mixed ancestry?
All over the world there are people wanting to learn or improve their knowledge of English I can attest to that from first-hand experience.
As for Wally Hicks, can he affirm that his lifestyle/culture is very different from that of the typical Maori as I described it? Even his name is English. He could check what I wrote before he wraps the garbage in it for collection by the council garbage truck —part of his British culture too, note.
Would he prefer to ignore it and let the garbage accumulate in the back yard? He goes on: "Bruce Moon and company interminably claim to know exactly what Maori understood and intended on Fehruary 6, 1840." Well, actually, we have read the careful record of proceedings by Colenso (easily Googled), who was there, and this does not leave a shadow of doubt that the chiefs knew that by signing the treaty they ceded sovereignty. Of course we have the recent culpably untrue claims by one Haami Piripi and others that Ngapuhi never did, predictably supported by the corrupt Waitangi Tribunal, which always accepts such statements, no matter how untrue.
As for Haami Piripi himself I'd lay even money that he was Jimmy Phillips at school. And Atearoa? A bogus name for our country. These fellows should look in the Treaty of Waitangi to see if they can find it there. Nobody mentioned it on February 6.
Well, e hoa, there is plenty of fight left in me yet, and I shall continue to uphold the truth and oppose those who do not until my pen runs dry. You can be sure of that
BRUCE MOON
Nelson
HE'S A WIGGER
When I was at university, we called those who think [sic] like Andrew Judd Wiggers.' A 'wigger is someone who reflexively rats out their own race and culture for the warm glow that comes from lining up with supposedly "oppressed" peoples.
Like all Western countries, New Zealand has a raft of these self-despising, West-hating socialist traitors, both in our universities and amongst the tertiary-educated, who have been helped by their communist lecturers to see that whites are to blame for all the evils of the world. These are people who told us three decades ago that apartheid was a social and moral evil in South Africa. Now they're telling us that it's a social and moral good in New Zealand.
Whether apartheid is to be decried or endorsed is based entirely on the skin colour of its beneficiaries.
Whites always deserve a good kicking.
Leftists despise their own culture.
They've been schooled to hate Western civilisation and regard Western countries as racist, sexist, colonialist oppressors. They desperately want to see other cultures as somehow morally superior to our own. They're not TheJudeo-Christian culture that originated in Athens, Rome and Jerusalem, then took root in Europe before being exported worldwide, is vastly superior to other cultures.
Many non-whites have also benefited massively in adopting Western cultural norms and values. This fact is undeniable to anyone except a moron.
Wiggers are people who have learned that the highest status in our society goes to anyone who can claim to be a member of a Marxist-designated race, gender, class, or sexual preference-based 'victim' group. For those who can't claim such membership, the next best thing is to be a totally supine, grovelling and penitent member of a 'victimiser' group— a rescuer. That's why liberal wiggers like Judd and Gareth Morgan seek moral preening opportunities for 'saving' the [part] Maori.
There is no reason for us to elevate Maori culture to an undeserved pre-eminence. By any objective standard, the sum total of its contribution to human felicity is an ugly, gesticulating, tongue-poking, eye-rolling, thigh slapping war dance of limited curiosity value when deployed before a rugby match. If anyone can show otherwise, let them step up to the plate.
Racism is often conflated by leftists with simple prejudice, which it is not.
Principled opposition to unearned racial privilege and the belief that newcomers should be welcomed but required to conform to Judeo-Christian cultural norms is not racism. Nor is it typically evidence of prejudice.
Racism occurs where a group of prejudiced individuals get together to create a system affording them separate, different, or superior rights to everyone else on the basis of group membership. I will leave it to readers to decide if New Zealand is a racist country, and if so, which group benefits most from this racism.
REUBEN CHAPPLE
Auckland
The New Zealand Herald 26/5/16
AN ADOPTED S
Your correspondent Ms le Prou remains linguistically muddled when she again chides Alan Duff for spelling the plural form of the word Maori with an ‘s’.
What she does not acknowledge is that he has written his column in English, not Maori. When words are borrowed from one language, it is absolutely regular that they undergo adaptation to the conventions of the adopting language. This is certainly what happens when English words become loan words in Maori, for example “horse” and “beer” becoming “hoiho” and “pia”.
Duff prefers to add the ‘s’ on occasion, as do I, because he believes it suits his writing better. Nothing to be criticised for in that.
B M
Grey Lynn.
Wanganui Chronicle 26/5/16
LIVING IN PAST
I think it's time Maori should drop the past and come into the 21st century. If they want to be on the council, they should stand just like everyone else. They have the numbers in Whanganui to vote for them if they are so concerned at Maori representation. (Abridged.)
B. D
Dannevirke
VEILED BAR
In response to Gaylene Kendrick's comments entitled "Beware of Brash tactics", I would hope the Year 13 students she refers to are mature and perceptive enough to recognise veiled censorship when they see it.
Readers who prefer to make their own judgments, and who believe in New Zealand's secular democracy and the right to free speech, will be able to draw their own conclusions as to why Ms Kendrick does not want you to read One Treaty, One Nation.
By the way, Don Brash is one of eight authors who have contributed to the book, which contains a brief biography for each author.
May I recommend people start by reading chapters 1 and 2 by Bruce Moon, and then read the preceding section en-titled "Some of the myths on which the Treaty industry is based". (Abridged.)
C L
Tauranga
Wairarapa Times-Age 26/5/16 (Texts section)
■ Fair to say, not many agree with the proposed token seats being given to Maori, with out ratepayer consultation. Hope Patterson and McC lymont start listening to those who vote.
■ good on Gary and Brent has the rest of council got the guts to reverse iwi reps
■ why cant Maori build houses for their needy from the 93 million dollars and all the land they have been given on a plate?