Post by Kiwi Frontline on Jul 8, 2016 11:07:26 GMT 12
Sunlive / Weekend Sun 8/7/16
PROPOSED EQUALITY FOR ALL
RE: ‘Howls of the housing crisis' (The Weekend Sun).
Perhaps R Goodall could rationally ‘prove' that I am the racist he claims?
In my lifetime, there has been no event, process, opportunity or institution that Maori have been denied access to. But decades of parliamentary leverage has created a plethora of race-based legislative initiatives that give Maori special rights. There are some 22 projects and initiatives that I, as a European, cannot participate in.
The United Nations convention concludes: “superiority on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and there is no justification for racial discrimination anywhere, in theory or in practice”.
I would be very happy to debate the words, as written in Te Tiriti o Waitangi (Treaty of Waitangi as signed by more than 500 Ragatira) with Goodall. That document is not racist, it proposed equality for all in the First Article.
MJ A
Pyes Pa.
NO GRATITUDE FOR SETTLERS
RE: ‘Howls of the housing crisis' (The Weekend Sun).
R Goodall's racist comment that they “absolutely love the housing crisis” because they imagines there are more ‘Pakeha' (non-Maori) homeless than Maori!
Goodall does not give statistics to support this fatuous statement but statistics show Maori are only 15 per cent of our population - the other 85 per cent being non-Maori. It therefore would not be surprising if there were more non-Maori homeless.
Goodall then tries to compare the present situation with that in 1840 when, after the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi, settlers began to arrive.
Maori were delighted to find they could get money from the sale of their land and this they did with gusto, sometimes the same tract several times over. The hundreds of sales are recorded on Victoria University's website.
As for housing, Maori had no idea what a proper house was like until settlers built theirs with running water and toilets. According to Charles Darwin, when he visited New Zealand prior to 1840, Maori lived in ‘filthy hovels'. Goodall shows no gratitude for the way settlers turned barren land into a country with houses, schools, universities, roads - and most of all knowledge and education.
Goodall's gloating over homeless non-Maori is derogatory to say the least.
M B
Tauranga City.
BE GRATEFUL FOR THE INTRUSION
Re: Stunned by verbal invective (The Weekend Sun, July 1).
Marama Fox should be grateful for the intrusion of colonists to New Zealand and the individual freedom granted her by the treaty, as a citizen of the Crown, to express herself as she did on TV3's programme as in pre-colonial times she would never have been able, as a woman, to speak let alone display such gross behaviour on any marae in the land.
B J
Omokoroa.
OWN UP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
Re: ‘They got away with murder' (The Weekend Sun, July 1).
We have to stop all the politically correct nonsense and pussy-footing around and admit that Maori are the main offenders when it comes to the horrendous killings of our children. They must own up to this and take responsibility for their actions. Only then will we see this problem solved. Houses where children are most likely to be put at risk must be identified and monitored and child education programmes put in place for the adults to prevent these crimes from happening in future.
The dole and DPB are too easily obtained in this country and become a permanent way of life for some. And often that is reflected in the backgrounds of the cases in which these vicious killers come. Often this is a generational way of life and that will only be overcome when suitable classes are provided for these young people to keep them in the education system until they reach a certain education standard before they leave school. Otherwise they just become drifters in life with the taxpayers keeping them.
M H
Hairini.
PROPOSED EQUALITY FOR ALL
RE: ‘Howls of the housing crisis' (The Weekend Sun).
Perhaps R Goodall could rationally ‘prove' that I am the racist he claims?
In my lifetime, there has been no event, process, opportunity or institution that Maori have been denied access to. But decades of parliamentary leverage has created a plethora of race-based legislative initiatives that give Maori special rights. There are some 22 projects and initiatives that I, as a European, cannot participate in.
The United Nations convention concludes: “superiority on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and there is no justification for racial discrimination anywhere, in theory or in practice”.
I would be very happy to debate the words, as written in Te Tiriti o Waitangi (Treaty of Waitangi as signed by more than 500 Ragatira) with Goodall. That document is not racist, it proposed equality for all in the First Article.
MJ A
Pyes Pa.
NO GRATITUDE FOR SETTLERS
RE: ‘Howls of the housing crisis' (The Weekend Sun).
R Goodall's racist comment that they “absolutely love the housing crisis” because they imagines there are more ‘Pakeha' (non-Maori) homeless than Maori!
Goodall does not give statistics to support this fatuous statement but statistics show Maori are only 15 per cent of our population - the other 85 per cent being non-Maori. It therefore would not be surprising if there were more non-Maori homeless.
Goodall then tries to compare the present situation with that in 1840 when, after the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi, settlers began to arrive.
Maori were delighted to find they could get money from the sale of their land and this they did with gusto, sometimes the same tract several times over. The hundreds of sales are recorded on Victoria University's website.
As for housing, Maori had no idea what a proper house was like until settlers built theirs with running water and toilets. According to Charles Darwin, when he visited New Zealand prior to 1840, Maori lived in ‘filthy hovels'. Goodall shows no gratitude for the way settlers turned barren land into a country with houses, schools, universities, roads - and most of all knowledge and education.
Goodall's gloating over homeless non-Maori is derogatory to say the least.
M B
Tauranga City.
BE GRATEFUL FOR THE INTRUSION
Re: Stunned by verbal invective (The Weekend Sun, July 1).
Marama Fox should be grateful for the intrusion of colonists to New Zealand and the individual freedom granted her by the treaty, as a citizen of the Crown, to express herself as she did on TV3's programme as in pre-colonial times she would never have been able, as a woman, to speak let alone display such gross behaviour on any marae in the land.
B J
Omokoroa.
OWN UP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
Re: ‘They got away with murder' (The Weekend Sun, July 1).
We have to stop all the politically correct nonsense and pussy-footing around and admit that Maori are the main offenders when it comes to the horrendous killings of our children. They must own up to this and take responsibility for their actions. Only then will we see this problem solved. Houses where children are most likely to be put at risk must be identified and monitored and child education programmes put in place for the adults to prevent these crimes from happening in future.
The dole and DPB are too easily obtained in this country and become a permanent way of life for some. And often that is reflected in the backgrounds of the cases in which these vicious killers come. Often this is a generational way of life and that will only be overcome when suitable classes are provided for these young people to keep them in the education system until they reach a certain education standard before they leave school. Otherwise they just become drifters in life with the taxpayers keeping them.
M H
Hairini.