Post by Kiwi Frontline on Jul 14, 2016 9:54:53 GMT 12
The New Zealand Herald 14/7/16
BEACH CLAIM
Like many others I donated to Givealittle to raise money to buy Awaroa Beach. I did this so that it could be bought, then gifted back to New Zealanders and to stop it being sold to overseas buyers.
I did not donate so that this land could be gifted to New Zealand only for an iwi to come along and say it is now theirs. If this land had been sold to an overseas buyer the iwi would have no claim on it and they shouldn’t have a claim now.
R W
Waipu.
CO-SLEEPING
I fail to understand why we are too timid to label harmful “cultural practices” as inappropriate. If Maori babies are eight times more likely to die from suffocation caused by bed-sharing and high smoking rates, then baby pods are not the answer.
A simple intelligent response is required. Parents, and especially mothers: if you are too selfish to give up your fags or get out of bed to care for your newborn then you are not fit to be a parent. Stay single please until you can live as a responsible adult. Enough of the cringeworthy racist psychobabble providing excuses for poor parenting choices, or the expectation that we should subsidise stupidity.
M M
Red Beach.
Northland Age 14/7/16
FURIOUS AND FALSE
I do not have time to respond here to the welter of furious and false accusations in the Age today (July12). All I have time to say is that Haami Piripi is reported in The Press, May10, 2010, as saying, "We didn't cede our sovereignty", etc, etc. This is a straight lie. That Anne Salmond supports this false claim means only that she is deluded or lying too.
For the true story of events at Waitangi around February 6, 1840, read my chapters in One Treaty— One Nation, (2015, LSBN 1872970443).
Just one more thing: Haami is also reported as saying, "We never ever saw an English version of the Treaty and we never signed one." Right on! There never was a treaty in English, and the piece of paper which is purported to be one is falsely so described.
BRUCE MOON
Nelson
FABRICATIONS
It may come as a surprise to Haami Piripi that approximately 80 per cent of New Zealanders favour living in Dr Muriel Newman's democratic 'wonderland' in preference to his tribal cuckoo-land.
The Treaty of Waitangi was actually a cessation agreement: there is no inference of compromise, collaboration, co-operation or partnership in the wording of the Maori language Treaty that approximately 500 chiefs signed. It was a great race-uniting document that gave all New Zealanders (not just Maori) equality, protection and ownership of their lands, but it had served its purpose in 1840.
Further, 'principles' and 'partnership' that Piripi refers to have nothing to do with the Treaty of Waitangi 1840, and everything to do with what we might call the Treaty of Wellington (aka the State-Owned Enterprises Act 1986). This is the point of entry to our national discourse for all the Maori grievance industry baloney, These fabricated 'principles and partnership' are capable of justifying any tribal demand, no matter how exorbitant, and are used to push the Maori supremacist agenda.
It is greedy power-hungry iwi leaders, the racially-stacked and biased Waitangi Tribunal, history-twisting academics/ historians, short-sighted, self-serving MPs and parasitic lawyers that will make us the Zimbabwe of the Pacific, not perceptive people like Dr Muriel Newman who are brave enough to advocate racial equality and one rule for all in a society that appears to have lost its sanity.
As for Wally Hicks (A lost cause, July 12), he continues to twist the past then talks about going forward — enough said there.
Finally, how can Brian Gillespie (Moving on, July 12) justify grouping Bruce Moon's informative correspondence in with Anahera Herbert-Graves' endless He Whakaputanga nonsense?
GEOFFREY T PARKER
Kamo
TWO SIDES
What goaded Haami Piripi into his rant about what he calls right-wing mongrelism ruining this country (Colonial defiance, letters July 12)?
Piripi doesn't like to see publication of what he thinks are extremist views by Muriel Newman of the New Zealand Centre for Political Research, but is silent about extremist views in the same newspaper by Anahera Herbert-Graves.
The Northland Age is unique in that it quite rightly publishes both sides of the debate.
Piripi appears allergic to the notion that Maori may have been "deprived of any historical sovereign interests". Does he not realise that Article 1 of the Treaty that 512 chiefs signed in 1840 says that the chiefs "cede to the Queen of England for ever the entire sovereignty of their country?"
Piripi boldly signs his letter as a "treaty partner". I challenge Piripi to say exactly where in the Treaty the word "partnership" is used, or where any arrangement resembling partnership was described.
Piripi is a spokesman for the Iwi Leaders' Group, which has collectively siphoned more than $3 billion out of taxpayers.
He may be old enough to remember a time before ideology divided as into identity groups and race hucksters started peddling guilt as a cover for race-based compensation.
It appears analysis by Muriel Newman has hit a sore spot, sparking this latest fit of name-calling by Haami Piripi.
MIKE BUTLER
Hastings
Gisborne Herald 13/7/16
NEW NAME?
I see that Dame Anne Salmond now refers to our district as “the Tai Rawhiti”. Does that mean that all posters, letterheads, signposts, maps, etcetera will need to be changed?
Watch this space!
M C
BEACH CLAIM
Like many others I donated to Givealittle to raise money to buy Awaroa Beach. I did this so that it could be bought, then gifted back to New Zealanders and to stop it being sold to overseas buyers.
I did not donate so that this land could be gifted to New Zealand only for an iwi to come along and say it is now theirs. If this land had been sold to an overseas buyer the iwi would have no claim on it and they shouldn’t have a claim now.
R W
Waipu.
CO-SLEEPING
I fail to understand why we are too timid to label harmful “cultural practices” as inappropriate. If Maori babies are eight times more likely to die from suffocation caused by bed-sharing and high smoking rates, then baby pods are not the answer.
A simple intelligent response is required. Parents, and especially mothers: if you are too selfish to give up your fags or get out of bed to care for your newborn then you are not fit to be a parent. Stay single please until you can live as a responsible adult. Enough of the cringeworthy racist psychobabble providing excuses for poor parenting choices, or the expectation that we should subsidise stupidity.
M M
Red Beach.
Northland Age 14/7/16
FURIOUS AND FALSE
I do not have time to respond here to the welter of furious and false accusations in the Age today (July12). All I have time to say is that Haami Piripi is reported in The Press, May10, 2010, as saying, "We didn't cede our sovereignty", etc, etc. This is a straight lie. That Anne Salmond supports this false claim means only that she is deluded or lying too.
For the true story of events at Waitangi around February 6, 1840, read my chapters in One Treaty— One Nation, (2015, LSBN 1872970443).
Just one more thing: Haami is also reported as saying, "We never ever saw an English version of the Treaty and we never signed one." Right on! There never was a treaty in English, and the piece of paper which is purported to be one is falsely so described.
BRUCE MOON
Nelson
FABRICATIONS
It may come as a surprise to Haami Piripi that approximately 80 per cent of New Zealanders favour living in Dr Muriel Newman's democratic 'wonderland' in preference to his tribal cuckoo-land.
The Treaty of Waitangi was actually a cessation agreement: there is no inference of compromise, collaboration, co-operation or partnership in the wording of the Maori language Treaty that approximately 500 chiefs signed. It was a great race-uniting document that gave all New Zealanders (not just Maori) equality, protection and ownership of their lands, but it had served its purpose in 1840.
Further, 'principles' and 'partnership' that Piripi refers to have nothing to do with the Treaty of Waitangi 1840, and everything to do with what we might call the Treaty of Wellington (aka the State-Owned Enterprises Act 1986). This is the point of entry to our national discourse for all the Maori grievance industry baloney, These fabricated 'principles and partnership' are capable of justifying any tribal demand, no matter how exorbitant, and are used to push the Maori supremacist agenda.
It is greedy power-hungry iwi leaders, the racially-stacked and biased Waitangi Tribunal, history-twisting academics/ historians, short-sighted, self-serving MPs and parasitic lawyers that will make us the Zimbabwe of the Pacific, not perceptive people like Dr Muriel Newman who are brave enough to advocate racial equality and one rule for all in a society that appears to have lost its sanity.
As for Wally Hicks (A lost cause, July 12), he continues to twist the past then talks about going forward — enough said there.
Finally, how can Brian Gillespie (Moving on, July 12) justify grouping Bruce Moon's informative correspondence in with Anahera Herbert-Graves' endless He Whakaputanga nonsense?
GEOFFREY T PARKER
Kamo
TWO SIDES
What goaded Haami Piripi into his rant about what he calls right-wing mongrelism ruining this country (Colonial defiance, letters July 12)?
Piripi doesn't like to see publication of what he thinks are extremist views by Muriel Newman of the New Zealand Centre for Political Research, but is silent about extremist views in the same newspaper by Anahera Herbert-Graves.
The Northland Age is unique in that it quite rightly publishes both sides of the debate.
Piripi appears allergic to the notion that Maori may have been "deprived of any historical sovereign interests". Does he not realise that Article 1 of the Treaty that 512 chiefs signed in 1840 says that the chiefs "cede to the Queen of England for ever the entire sovereignty of their country?"
Piripi boldly signs his letter as a "treaty partner". I challenge Piripi to say exactly where in the Treaty the word "partnership" is used, or where any arrangement resembling partnership was described.
Piripi is a spokesman for the Iwi Leaders' Group, which has collectively siphoned more than $3 billion out of taxpayers.
He may be old enough to remember a time before ideology divided as into identity groups and race hucksters started peddling guilt as a cover for race-based compensation.
It appears analysis by Muriel Newman has hit a sore spot, sparking this latest fit of name-calling by Haami Piripi.
MIKE BUTLER
Hastings
Gisborne Herald 13/7/16
NEW NAME?
I see that Dame Anne Salmond now refers to our district as “the Tai Rawhiti”. Does that mean that all posters, letterheads, signposts, maps, etcetera will need to be changed?
Watch this space!
M C
