Post by Kiwi Frontline on Aug 22, 2021 11:33:32 GMT 12
OH DEBBIE, WHERE DID YOU LEARN SUCH RUBBISH?
I feel extremely sad for Maori Party MP, Debbie Anne Ngarewa-Packer as she must live every day with so much hate in her belly about colonisation because she has no idea of her tangata Maori’s true history.
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Open letter.
19 August 2021.
Hon Debbie Ngarewa-Packer
Co-Leader of the Maori Party,
Parliament Building,
Wellington.
Dear Hon Debbie Ngarewa-Packer,
Re: Debbie, how wrong you are!
I have just read your article, “Wāhine Māori must lead dismantling of colonialist mindset in Aotearoa”.
Debbie, where did you get this idea from. As a white male, I don’t know of any white male who has a colonial mindset in New Zealand today. Few even know the “true” history of New Zealand, including both male and female politicians, so they can hardly have a colonial mindset.
We all live completely different lives today than our colonial ancestors in New Zealand, just as today’s Maori live completely different lives today in Nu Tirani than their tangata Maori ancestors in 1840.
In 1840, my colonial male ancestors expected the women to be at home having babies, cooking meals, and looking after the children, the same as the tangata Maori males expected in 1840.
Today, women have just as many rights as males, you are a shining example, a Member of the New Zealand Parliament. This never would have happened in the colonial or tangata Maori days, they were then, male dominate societies.
You stated, “White right-wing male, simply because they struggle with what I represent or because, as Morgana Watson described so well, "it is an affront to their colonial thinking, and that as a consequence these men become increasingly agitated and resort to abuse to silence us".
Colonial thinking in New Zealand in 1840 was to save a race of people completely out of control, even asking the British King to be their guardian and protector from themselves as half the tangata Maori population had been killed by other tribes for utu or just the fun of it and the feasts that followed.
Yes, there were some hard times ahead for the tangata Maori to bring peace amongst the tribes but look at their descendants today. Most who have joined the modern world, you as an example, have a good job, possibly a nice home and car, three meals a day and know you will not be attacked by another tribe tonight and loses the lot. Surely, this is a better life today than back in 1840 thanks to the colonial government.
As for your moko kauae, this is your choice, it would probably have been the chief’s choice in 1840, but being a white male, I would not know about this, but it has nothing to do with me and if you want one, then today no one will stop you. That’s what’s so great to have rights, few had in 1840.
As for Morgana Watson stating, "It is an affront to their colonial thinking, and that as a consequence these men become increasingly agitated and resort to abuse to silence us".
As I said earlier, colonial thinking is a thing of the past, that was 5 or 6 generations ago and a lot has changed in New Zealand since that time. Women got the vote, women went into politics, women are CEOs of multi-national companies etc., etc., while the white male has stepped aside and let it happen with dignity.
Is this how tangata Maori females lived in 1840? Off course not! We have all changed for the better and to continue with this nonsense is doing little for Maori as a whole.
From tangata Maori and European women, you have all moved ahead in leaps and bounds, why not accept it, enjoy it and just do your job as, The Co-Leader of the Maori Party under one flag and one law as your tangata Maori ancestors agreed to in 1840.
Most Maori today have colonial ancestry, so why is it only their tangata Maori ancestry shines through and their colonial ancestry takes a back seat!
The Treaty of Waitangi made us all one people, intercourse between the people of New Zealand in more ways than one has confirmed it, whether you like it or not!
Debbie, as the greatest Maori politician ever said. ‘If you think these things are wrong, then blame your ancestors who gave away their rights when they were strong”.
Debbie, if you don’t see it with your own eyes, don’t invent it with your pen!
Ross Baker,
Researcher, One New Zealand Foundation Inc. Est: 1988.
I feel extremely sad for Maori Party MP, Debbie Anne Ngarewa-Packer as she must live every day with so much hate in her belly about colonisation because she has no idea of her tangata Maori’s true history.
.
.
Open letter.
19 August 2021.
Hon Debbie Ngarewa-Packer
Co-Leader of the Maori Party,
Parliament Building,
Wellington.
Dear Hon Debbie Ngarewa-Packer,
Re: Debbie, how wrong you are!
I have just read your article, “Wāhine Māori must lead dismantling of colonialist mindset in Aotearoa”.
Debbie, where did you get this idea from. As a white male, I don’t know of any white male who has a colonial mindset in New Zealand today. Few even know the “true” history of New Zealand, including both male and female politicians, so they can hardly have a colonial mindset.
We all live completely different lives today than our colonial ancestors in New Zealand, just as today’s Maori live completely different lives today in Nu Tirani than their tangata Maori ancestors in 1840.
In 1840, my colonial male ancestors expected the women to be at home having babies, cooking meals, and looking after the children, the same as the tangata Maori males expected in 1840.
Today, women have just as many rights as males, you are a shining example, a Member of the New Zealand Parliament. This never would have happened in the colonial or tangata Maori days, they were then, male dominate societies.
You stated, “White right-wing male, simply because they struggle with what I represent or because, as Morgana Watson described so well, "it is an affront to their colonial thinking, and that as a consequence these men become increasingly agitated and resort to abuse to silence us".
Colonial thinking in New Zealand in 1840 was to save a race of people completely out of control, even asking the British King to be their guardian and protector from themselves as half the tangata Maori population had been killed by other tribes for utu or just the fun of it and the feasts that followed.
Yes, there were some hard times ahead for the tangata Maori to bring peace amongst the tribes but look at their descendants today. Most who have joined the modern world, you as an example, have a good job, possibly a nice home and car, three meals a day and know you will not be attacked by another tribe tonight and loses the lot. Surely, this is a better life today than back in 1840 thanks to the colonial government.
As for your moko kauae, this is your choice, it would probably have been the chief’s choice in 1840, but being a white male, I would not know about this, but it has nothing to do with me and if you want one, then today no one will stop you. That’s what’s so great to have rights, few had in 1840.
As for Morgana Watson stating, "It is an affront to their colonial thinking, and that as a consequence these men become increasingly agitated and resort to abuse to silence us".
As I said earlier, colonial thinking is a thing of the past, that was 5 or 6 generations ago and a lot has changed in New Zealand since that time. Women got the vote, women went into politics, women are CEOs of multi-national companies etc., etc., while the white male has stepped aside and let it happen with dignity.
Is this how tangata Maori females lived in 1840? Off course not! We have all changed for the better and to continue with this nonsense is doing little for Maori as a whole.
From tangata Maori and European women, you have all moved ahead in leaps and bounds, why not accept it, enjoy it and just do your job as, The Co-Leader of the Maori Party under one flag and one law as your tangata Maori ancestors agreed to in 1840.
Most Maori today have colonial ancestry, so why is it only their tangata Maori ancestry shines through and their colonial ancestry takes a back seat!
The Treaty of Waitangi made us all one people, intercourse between the people of New Zealand in more ways than one has confirmed it, whether you like it or not!
Debbie, as the greatest Maori politician ever said. ‘If you think these things are wrong, then blame your ancestors who gave away their rights when they were strong”.
Debbie, if you don’t see it with your own eyes, don’t invent it with your pen!
Ross Baker,
Researcher, One New Zealand Foundation Inc. Est: 1988.
