Post by Kiwi Frontline on Sept 18, 2016 9:03:17 GMT 12
Dear Editor, (Sent to the Northern Advocate / Age / BoP Times 23/2/16)
A few months ago the Wanganui District Council wanted the spelling of Wanganui changed to putting the ‘h’ in it pushed by local iwi, so the residents were asked to put in submissions. The final outcome of the result put out by the geographic board was 350 for the ‘h’ and 299 against the ‘h’
I sent my submission against putting the ‘h’ in the spelling to all Wanganui district councillors, the geographic board and the minister of lands giving some evidence that Wanganui never had the ‘h’ in the spelling in 1840 as the chiefs in Wanganui signed the treaty under “Chiefs of Wanganui” without the ‘h’ in it. My submission was rejected by the three that I have mentioned.
I received a letter from Jill Remnant from the geographic board saying that “The board did not agree with the objections so it was not able to make the final decision”. I replied back and asked why my evidence was rejected I never got a reply back.
The name Wanganui is not a Maori name as it belongs to the Waitaha people who were here over 300 years before the people called Maori arrived. There is a sign erected by D.O.C and NZ Historic Places Trust near an ancient site close to the Wanganui river called “Waitaha Pa”. It says that the pa was occupied by Maori people
Possibly around 200 or more years ago. Well the Waitaha People weren’t Maori.
I went into the geographic board website on the submissions and found all the submissions for putting the ‘h’ in Wanganui, as well as some against the ‘h’ were based on here say and not on facts. So the name of Wanganui with the ‘h’ in the spelling is falsely written.
I B
Wanganui
Dear Editor, (Sent to the Bay of Plenty Times 23/2/16)
I am afraid Tommy Wilson is being extremely naive if he thinks the fact that over 50% of prison inmates are Maori is because some cannot read or write! The reasons they are incacerated are because they have shown no respect for law and order and commit crimes such as drug-dealing,. violent assault, robbery etc.
Most Maori lead decent hard-working lives and many achieve high status. However there is a very strong criminal element which has little to do with reading and writing but which the police are continually trying to control and protect the public.
The family background is the main cause of young people turning to lives of crime. Parental abuse, drugs and alcoholism being daily even ts, a total lack of interest in a child`s welfare and education. No home support for homework or encouragement to take books out of the library and read - just having the TV on all day. Young solo mothers unable to cope and parents allowing children to just drop out of school and not complete their education.
A loving, supportive family is the first step towards cutting down on Maori crime.
M B
Tauranga
Dear Editor (Sent to the Bay of Plenty Times 23/2/16)
Peter Dey is mistaken to think that history is changed by government payments and apologies because these payments were made in response to a raft of claims made possible by the offer of financial compensation.
Payments to tribes are calculated on several factors that have little to do with historical events.
Financial redress is calculated based on current claimed tribal membership and the difference between what the tribe claimed to own in 1840 and the area that remains in tribal ownership today.
The biggest tribe claiming the biggest area in 1840 gets the biggest payout.
The financial redress total is often calculated before the "agreed history" is written.
I would like to add that citing the Waitangi Tribunal as an authority on the treaty and claims is the same as citing the tobacco industry as an authority on smoking and health.
The tribunal sells Maori rights just as strenuously as the tobacco industry sells cigarettes.
The tribunal reports contain both history and spin. A Northland Kaumatua is on record as saying “The tribunal makes up history as it goes along.”
GEOFF PARKER
Whangarei
The Editor (Sent to the Northern Advocate 19/2/16)
Juliet Golighty letter to the editor (19/2/2016) Northern Advocate is very misleading. She states the treaty gravy train continues to create wealth for New Zealand.
False most Maori corporations are registered as charitable trusts and pay little or no tax.
She then goes on to say Mr. Parker seems not to care about the fiscal benifts for New Zealand. Like what? Who makes up the biggest portion of our population in the jails and on welfare payments?
The treaty was twisted by the Lange Government with Geoffrey Palmer and with a few others and legislation put in place in 1975 which made smart lawyers, smart white liberals, and smart Maori very wealthy.
Where was the help for those Maori who needed it the most from treaty settlements? None but left for the tax payer of New Zealand to pick up and keep on paying out on the questionable activities and finding of the Waitangi Tribunal and those involved in the treaty gravy train.
M L
Te Puke
Dear Editor (Sent to the Hawkes Bay Times 18/2/16)
Kura is by nature exclusive
Horiana Robin’s “inclusivity” letter forgets that an exclusive kura in Havelock North would utilise Education Department land without considering the needs of all children there and while the three primary schools are bursting at the seams.
A decision by a government department on the educational needs of children in Havelock North should be for the benefit of all people living there.
Claimed treaty rights should have nothing to do with it.
British Resident James Busby’s 1835 Declaration of Independence should also have nothing to do with it.
The 3000 residents of Havelock North must be tired of Horiana Robin’s claim that the suburb is “known as a racist place”, as she wrote in her letter.
A school that conducts all classes solely in the Maori language excludes those who want a general education.
A “full immersion” Maori language kura is by nature exclusive, not inclusive as Horiana Robin would have us believe.
MIKE BUTLER
Hastings
A few months ago the Wanganui District Council wanted the spelling of Wanganui changed to putting the ‘h’ in it pushed by local iwi, so the residents were asked to put in submissions. The final outcome of the result put out by the geographic board was 350 for the ‘h’ and 299 against the ‘h’
I sent my submission against putting the ‘h’ in the spelling to all Wanganui district councillors, the geographic board and the minister of lands giving some evidence that Wanganui never had the ‘h’ in the spelling in 1840 as the chiefs in Wanganui signed the treaty under “Chiefs of Wanganui” without the ‘h’ in it. My submission was rejected by the three that I have mentioned.
I received a letter from Jill Remnant from the geographic board saying that “The board did not agree with the objections so it was not able to make the final decision”. I replied back and asked why my evidence was rejected I never got a reply back.
The name Wanganui is not a Maori name as it belongs to the Waitaha people who were here over 300 years before the people called Maori arrived. There is a sign erected by D.O.C and NZ Historic Places Trust near an ancient site close to the Wanganui river called “Waitaha Pa”. It says that the pa was occupied by Maori people
Possibly around 200 or more years ago. Well the Waitaha People weren’t Maori.
I went into the geographic board website on the submissions and found all the submissions for putting the ‘h’ in Wanganui, as well as some against the ‘h’ were based on here say and not on facts. So the name of Wanganui with the ‘h’ in the spelling is falsely written.
I B
Wanganui
Dear Editor, (Sent to the Bay of Plenty Times 23/2/16)
I am afraid Tommy Wilson is being extremely naive if he thinks the fact that over 50% of prison inmates are Maori is because some cannot read or write! The reasons they are incacerated are because they have shown no respect for law and order and commit crimes such as drug-dealing,. violent assault, robbery etc.
Most Maori lead decent hard-working lives and many achieve high status. However there is a very strong criminal element which has little to do with reading and writing but which the police are continually trying to control and protect the public.
The family background is the main cause of young people turning to lives of crime. Parental abuse, drugs and alcoholism being daily even ts, a total lack of interest in a child`s welfare and education. No home support for homework or encouragement to take books out of the library and read - just having the TV on all day. Young solo mothers unable to cope and parents allowing children to just drop out of school and not complete their education.
A loving, supportive family is the first step towards cutting down on Maori crime.
M B
Tauranga
Dear Editor (Sent to the Bay of Plenty Times 23/2/16)
Peter Dey is mistaken to think that history is changed by government payments and apologies because these payments were made in response to a raft of claims made possible by the offer of financial compensation.
Payments to tribes are calculated on several factors that have little to do with historical events.
Financial redress is calculated based on current claimed tribal membership and the difference between what the tribe claimed to own in 1840 and the area that remains in tribal ownership today.
The biggest tribe claiming the biggest area in 1840 gets the biggest payout.
The financial redress total is often calculated before the "agreed history" is written.
I would like to add that citing the Waitangi Tribunal as an authority on the treaty and claims is the same as citing the tobacco industry as an authority on smoking and health.
The tribunal sells Maori rights just as strenuously as the tobacco industry sells cigarettes.
The tribunal reports contain both history and spin. A Northland Kaumatua is on record as saying “The tribunal makes up history as it goes along.”
GEOFF PARKER
Whangarei
The Editor (Sent to the Northern Advocate 19/2/16)
Juliet Golighty letter to the editor (19/2/2016) Northern Advocate is very misleading. She states the treaty gravy train continues to create wealth for New Zealand.
False most Maori corporations are registered as charitable trusts and pay little or no tax.
She then goes on to say Mr. Parker seems not to care about the fiscal benifts for New Zealand. Like what? Who makes up the biggest portion of our population in the jails and on welfare payments?
The treaty was twisted by the Lange Government with Geoffrey Palmer and with a few others and legislation put in place in 1975 which made smart lawyers, smart white liberals, and smart Maori very wealthy.
Where was the help for those Maori who needed it the most from treaty settlements? None but left for the tax payer of New Zealand to pick up and keep on paying out on the questionable activities and finding of the Waitangi Tribunal and those involved in the treaty gravy train.
M L
Te Puke
Dear Editor (Sent to the Hawkes Bay Times 18/2/16)
Kura is by nature exclusive
Horiana Robin’s “inclusivity” letter forgets that an exclusive kura in Havelock North would utilise Education Department land without considering the needs of all children there and while the three primary schools are bursting at the seams.
A decision by a government department on the educational needs of children in Havelock North should be for the benefit of all people living there.
Claimed treaty rights should have nothing to do with it.
British Resident James Busby’s 1835 Declaration of Independence should also have nothing to do with it.
The 3000 residents of Havelock North must be tired of Horiana Robin’s claim that the suburb is “known as a racist place”, as she wrote in her letter.
A school that conducts all classes solely in the Maori language excludes those who want a general education.
A “full immersion” Maori language kura is by nature exclusive, not inclusive as Horiana Robin would have us believe.
MIKE BUTLER
Hastings