Post by Kiwi Frontline on Sept 18, 2016 9:12:13 GMT 12
Dear Sir/Madam (Sent to the NZ Herald 18/4/16)
BREAKING THE WATERS
Ms Marvelly (Herald16 April) a privileged part Arawa maori launches into her freshwater diatribe. It’s unmitigated claptrap but what else would you expect?
Legal position with water is crystal clear-no one owns the water and the Government administers freshwater as a fiduciary for all Kiwis. No customary rights exist, the native title ‘red herring’ is ludicrous and it’s Ms Marvelly who is raving, not those she wrongly demeans as ex-politicians who incidentally have a lot more nous than this lightweight .They are better qualified, have real world experience and their assessments are factually correct. What are Ms Marvelly’s qualifications to pontificate on freshwater which as with most other maori claims looks like race-based separatist spin.
To laud part maori as guardians, environmentalists and conservationists or suggest they know more about freshwater than other Kiwis is a joke. Maori were never Treaty partners, no Treaty Partnership and other than what’s spelt out in Tiriti-o-Waitangi no Treaty obligations exist. Treaty itself now an historical relic.
Ms Marvelly’s comments are so skewed and flawed it’s pointless addressing them rationally. She and her researchers need to read the 12-point Freshwater Iwi Leadership Group list illustrating the intent and stealth associated with the insane demands being made.
L M
Tauranga
The Editor (Sent to the Bay of Plenty Times 18/4/16)
RACIAL RORTING
Mr Flavell continues wasting public time and money petitioning the Government to make part-Maori race-based seats on all NZ Councils/ Local Authorities compulsory. He thinks the 5% threshold to demand a poll is too low but that’s not his problem it’s the resultant referendum where 80% of electors (as in New Plymouth) vote against separatism and race-based anti-democratic initiatives. Hopefully Rotorua Lakes and New Plymouth mayoral aberrations won’t be around come October2016 so this nonsense won’t be an issue after that.
It is little wonder Mr Flavell endorses this type of race based rubbish because, he has a Maori parliamentary seat that should have been abolished 100 years ago and technically that’s still on National’s bucket list. Basically it’s called protecting your patch particularly when his discredited Maori Party has a woeful 1.32% of MMP Party Votes and even less of the electorate votes indicating most maori voters don’t support the Maori Party.
So Mr Flavell go and wallow in your self-interest, self-pitying race based philosophies with your bolshie co-leader. Another bleating local mouthpiece, Awanui Black as usual sticks in his oar supporting racial privilege because his paltry 604 out of 1821 votes gave him a Bay Regiona lCouncil (Mauao Maori) race-based seat.
R P
Matapihi
Dear Editor (Sent to the NZ Herald 16/4/16)
Lizzie Marvelly article in the NZ Herald (Sat 16/04/16) is a
article which itself is slanted towards separatism which is intended to
promote one ethnic group over the others.She mentions the Waitangi
Tribunal its self, recognized by most of us in New Zealand as a
separatist and racialist organisation which has little interest in
things base on fact.Do I need to say any more.The water issues by Iwi is
a grab for power and wealth and nothing less.
M L
Te Puke
Dear Editor, (Sent to the New Zealand Herald 16/4/16)
Lizzie Marvelly ("Herald".16/4/16) herself is guilty of racist rhetoric starting with the false name "Aotearoa" for New Zealand.
It is clear for all to see that some Maori pressure groups are making a powerful grab for lucrative rights over our water.
I see no sign of Maori guardianship over our natural resources. It is no better than anybody else's.
And talk of them as "Treaty partners" of the Government is a gross fabrication which dishonours the Treaty of Waitangi.
Shame on Lizzie Marvelly for her racist outburst.
BRUCE MOON,
Nelson
BREAKING THE WATERS
Ms Marvelly (Herald16 April) a privileged part Arawa maori launches into her freshwater diatribe. It’s unmitigated claptrap but what else would you expect?
Legal position with water is crystal clear-no one owns the water and the Government administers freshwater as a fiduciary for all Kiwis. No customary rights exist, the native title ‘red herring’ is ludicrous and it’s Ms Marvelly who is raving, not those she wrongly demeans as ex-politicians who incidentally have a lot more nous than this lightweight .They are better qualified, have real world experience and their assessments are factually correct. What are Ms Marvelly’s qualifications to pontificate on freshwater which as with most other maori claims looks like race-based separatist spin.
To laud part maori as guardians, environmentalists and conservationists or suggest they know more about freshwater than other Kiwis is a joke. Maori were never Treaty partners, no Treaty Partnership and other than what’s spelt out in Tiriti-o-Waitangi no Treaty obligations exist. Treaty itself now an historical relic.
Ms Marvelly’s comments are so skewed and flawed it’s pointless addressing them rationally. She and her researchers need to read the 12-point Freshwater Iwi Leadership Group list illustrating the intent and stealth associated with the insane demands being made.
L M
Tauranga
The Editor (Sent to the Bay of Plenty Times 18/4/16)
RACIAL RORTING
Mr Flavell continues wasting public time and money petitioning the Government to make part-Maori race-based seats on all NZ Councils/ Local Authorities compulsory. He thinks the 5% threshold to demand a poll is too low but that’s not his problem it’s the resultant referendum where 80% of electors (as in New Plymouth) vote against separatism and race-based anti-democratic initiatives. Hopefully Rotorua Lakes and New Plymouth mayoral aberrations won’t be around come October2016 so this nonsense won’t be an issue after that.
It is little wonder Mr Flavell endorses this type of race based rubbish because, he has a Maori parliamentary seat that should have been abolished 100 years ago and technically that’s still on National’s bucket list. Basically it’s called protecting your patch particularly when his discredited Maori Party has a woeful 1.32% of MMP Party Votes and even less of the electorate votes indicating most maori voters don’t support the Maori Party.
So Mr Flavell go and wallow in your self-interest, self-pitying race based philosophies with your bolshie co-leader. Another bleating local mouthpiece, Awanui Black as usual sticks in his oar supporting racial privilege because his paltry 604 out of 1821 votes gave him a Bay Regiona lCouncil (Mauao Maori) race-based seat.
R P
Matapihi
Dear Editor (Sent to the NZ Herald 16/4/16)
Lizzie Marvelly article in the NZ Herald (Sat 16/04/16) is a
article which itself is slanted towards separatism which is intended to
promote one ethnic group over the others.She mentions the Waitangi
Tribunal its self, recognized by most of us in New Zealand as a
separatist and racialist organisation which has little interest in
things base on fact.Do I need to say any more.The water issues by Iwi is
a grab for power and wealth and nothing less.
M L
Te Puke
Dear Editor, (Sent to the New Zealand Herald 16/4/16)
Lizzie Marvelly ("Herald".16/4/16) herself is guilty of racist rhetoric starting with the false name "Aotearoa" for New Zealand.
It is clear for all to see that some Maori pressure groups are making a powerful grab for lucrative rights over our water.
I see no sign of Maori guardianship over our natural resources. It is no better than anybody else's.
And talk of them as "Treaty partners" of the Government is a gross fabrication which dishonours the Treaty of Waitangi.
Shame on Lizzie Marvelly for her racist outburst.
BRUCE MOON,
Nelson