Post by Kiwi Frontline on Feb 12, 2016 6:50:46 GMT 12
Waikato Times 12/2/16
SPEAKING RIGHTS
The judgment of the Court of Appeal in New Zealand Maori Council v Attorney General (1987) NZLR 641 emphasised that there were two core Treaty of Waitangi principles. These were ‘‘partnership’’ and ‘‘active protection’’.
Both the courts and the Waitangi Tribunal have determined the principle of partnership includes the obligation on both parties to act reasonably, honourably and in good faith.
The actions of Ngapuhi trustees in setting limits on what the Prime Minister may say at Te Tii marae would appear to be an egregrious breach of the Treaty of Waitangi principles.
M D
Hamilton
WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH (Also in the Dominion Post 12/2/16)
Another Waitangi Day celebrating not the original Te Tiriti o Waitangi signed by 545 rangitira, but a reconstructed racially biased document created by legal argument. This new document is a travesty perpetrated against the original signatories that has cleverly created a multimillion dollar business for unprincipled white liberalists, lawyers, radical Maori and institutionalised racism.
The consequential results of the Lange government, Geoffrey Palmer, Robin Cooke at law, the Treaty of Waitangi Act and the Waitangi Tribunal have not benefited mainstream, hardworking Maori.
It is time for all citizens of New Zealand to wake up to the truth of our history.
M J A
Tauranga
Southland Times 12/2/16
WAITANGI DAY
In my opinion, Prime Ministers should not play a role in the Waitangi celebrations.
This should be the role of the Governor General as it was in the beginning at the founding of our great nation.
Waitangi is not a political forum and should not be used as such at Waitangi celebrations.
I’m sure leaders of all parties and their MPs would all be welcome to attend if they chose to do so.
Hopefully then the ceremonies could remain at the Te Tii Marae and in the grounds of the Treaty House as they always have been.
No need for the ‘‘rent a crowd’’ mobsters who turn up every year because there would be nothing to protest about.
Take politics out of our Waitangi celebrations and it should be a calm and dignified fun family day for all to enjoy, ancestors, family and friends alike.
E D L
Cromwell
Taranaki Daily News 12/2/16
TREATY OPINION
New Zealand became a selfgoverning country on 26 September 1926 when it was declared to be a "Self-governing Dominion" Prior to this the Constriction Act of 30 June 1852 of the British Parliament allowed "self government" in New Zealand.
The 1926 day was " Dominion Day" and celebrated as such until it was abolished by the government of the day when Waitangi Day was declared to be the National Day.
This despite the fact that New Zealand was simply a colony both before and after the Treaty of Waitangi.
The treaty was a contract between the British Crown [British government] and Maori chiefs.
It was designed to protect tine various Maori tribes from the unscrupulous and aggressive Europeans, and the equally unscrupulous and arrogant other Maori tribes.
In addition all Maori were granted all the rights and privileges, and responsibilities of British citizens, and their precious belongings protected.
In return the chiefs gave the Queen absolute authority. The Treaty did not create a nation. New Zealand remained a colony of Britain.
Dominion status was not complete independence and the British still held some authority in the country. Complete independence came in 1949 when New Zealand accepted the Statute of Westminster by which it became a completely independent nation in the British Commonwealth of Nations. This date really marks the start of the nation "New Zealand"
The reasons for the Labour government’s move to move the day from Dominion Day to Waitangi Day are obscure, but the change was illogical, unwarranted, and incorrect. Dominion Day, being celebrated in all towns in the country, was enjoyed by all Kiwis – a truly national day. Waitangi Day, being restricted to one locality is available to only a fewhardly a day for the nation.
J M
New Plymouth
Weekend Sun / Sunlive (Tauranga) 12/2/16
WHO HAS ACTUALLY READ THE TPP AGREEMENT?
I am wondering how many of the raucous protesters in Auckland and elsewhere, have actually read the 6000-page TPPA?
I think I can safely bet none have, including the nurse Josie Butler who threw a dildo at Minister Stephen Joyce on Waitangi Day. This ridiculous woman claimed it was to draw attention to the “atrocity that is the TPPA”.
Atrocity? That word is defined in the dictionary as “cruelty, monstrosity, brutality, obscenity”.
Whereas in fact, the TPP Agreement is a document signed by 12 key economies from Asia, the Pacific and the Americas, forming a new trading bloc that makes it easier for goods and services to be traded between these nations. Without being part of this agreement, New Zealand exports would be blocked by huge tariffs to other countries costing jobs and hurting the New Zealand economy.
Incidentally, there is not a single Clause in the TPPA that will impact the Crown's obligations to Maori.
In fact the TPPA includes a special provision preserving the pre-eminence of the Treaty of Waitangi.
Ms Butler's insulting behaviour to a Minister of the Crown has been shown globally. So much for New Zealand's image overseas.
As for her statement, she is worried what the TPPA “will mean for her patients” – pleeeeease!
M B,
Tauranga
Hawkes Bay Today 12/2/16 (Text Us section)
■ Jamie White was on the Paul Henry Show programme recently. He stated that the Treaty of Waitangi was between NZ Maori and the British Crown. Since the Crown's representative is the Governor General, he is the person who should be attending the meeting at Waitangi while the prime minister should be a guest — and treated with respect.
SPEAKING RIGHTS
The judgment of the Court of Appeal in New Zealand Maori Council v Attorney General (1987) NZLR 641 emphasised that there were two core Treaty of Waitangi principles. These were ‘‘partnership’’ and ‘‘active protection’’.
Both the courts and the Waitangi Tribunal have determined the principle of partnership includes the obligation on both parties to act reasonably, honourably and in good faith.
The actions of Ngapuhi trustees in setting limits on what the Prime Minister may say at Te Tii marae would appear to be an egregrious breach of the Treaty of Waitangi principles.
M D
Hamilton
WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH (Also in the Dominion Post 12/2/16)
Another Waitangi Day celebrating not the original Te Tiriti o Waitangi signed by 545 rangitira, but a reconstructed racially biased document created by legal argument. This new document is a travesty perpetrated against the original signatories that has cleverly created a multimillion dollar business for unprincipled white liberalists, lawyers, radical Maori and institutionalised racism.
The consequential results of the Lange government, Geoffrey Palmer, Robin Cooke at law, the Treaty of Waitangi Act and the Waitangi Tribunal have not benefited mainstream, hardworking Maori.
It is time for all citizens of New Zealand to wake up to the truth of our history.
M J A
Tauranga
Southland Times 12/2/16
WAITANGI DAY
In my opinion, Prime Ministers should not play a role in the Waitangi celebrations.
This should be the role of the Governor General as it was in the beginning at the founding of our great nation.
Waitangi is not a political forum and should not be used as such at Waitangi celebrations.
I’m sure leaders of all parties and their MPs would all be welcome to attend if they chose to do so.
Hopefully then the ceremonies could remain at the Te Tii Marae and in the grounds of the Treaty House as they always have been.
No need for the ‘‘rent a crowd’’ mobsters who turn up every year because there would be nothing to protest about.
Take politics out of our Waitangi celebrations and it should be a calm and dignified fun family day for all to enjoy, ancestors, family and friends alike.
E D L
Cromwell
Taranaki Daily News 12/2/16
TREATY OPINION
New Zealand became a selfgoverning country on 26 September 1926 when it was declared to be a "Self-governing Dominion" Prior to this the Constriction Act of 30 June 1852 of the British Parliament allowed "self government" in New Zealand.
The 1926 day was " Dominion Day" and celebrated as such until it was abolished by the government of the day when Waitangi Day was declared to be the National Day.
This despite the fact that New Zealand was simply a colony both before and after the Treaty of Waitangi.
The treaty was a contract between the British Crown [British government] and Maori chiefs.
It was designed to protect tine various Maori tribes from the unscrupulous and aggressive Europeans, and the equally unscrupulous and arrogant other Maori tribes.
In addition all Maori were granted all the rights and privileges, and responsibilities of British citizens, and their precious belongings protected.
In return the chiefs gave the Queen absolute authority. The Treaty did not create a nation. New Zealand remained a colony of Britain.
Dominion status was not complete independence and the British still held some authority in the country. Complete independence came in 1949 when New Zealand accepted the Statute of Westminster by which it became a completely independent nation in the British Commonwealth of Nations. This date really marks the start of the nation "New Zealand"
The reasons for the Labour government’s move to move the day from Dominion Day to Waitangi Day are obscure, but the change was illogical, unwarranted, and incorrect. Dominion Day, being celebrated in all towns in the country, was enjoyed by all Kiwis – a truly national day. Waitangi Day, being restricted to one locality is available to only a fewhardly a day for the nation.
J M
New Plymouth
Weekend Sun / Sunlive (Tauranga) 12/2/16
WHO HAS ACTUALLY READ THE TPP AGREEMENT?
I am wondering how many of the raucous protesters in Auckland and elsewhere, have actually read the 6000-page TPPA?
I think I can safely bet none have, including the nurse Josie Butler who threw a dildo at Minister Stephen Joyce on Waitangi Day. This ridiculous woman claimed it was to draw attention to the “atrocity that is the TPPA”.
Atrocity? That word is defined in the dictionary as “cruelty, monstrosity, brutality, obscenity”.
Whereas in fact, the TPP Agreement is a document signed by 12 key economies from Asia, the Pacific and the Americas, forming a new trading bloc that makes it easier for goods and services to be traded between these nations. Without being part of this agreement, New Zealand exports would be blocked by huge tariffs to other countries costing jobs and hurting the New Zealand economy.
Incidentally, there is not a single Clause in the TPPA that will impact the Crown's obligations to Maori.
In fact the TPPA includes a special provision preserving the pre-eminence of the Treaty of Waitangi.
Ms Butler's insulting behaviour to a Minister of the Crown has been shown globally. So much for New Zealand's image overseas.
As for her statement, she is worried what the TPPA “will mean for her patients” – pleeeeease!
M B,
Tauranga
Hawkes Bay Today 12/2/16 (Text Us section)
■ Jamie White was on the Paul Henry Show programme recently. He stated that the Treaty of Waitangi was between NZ Maori and the British Crown. Since the Crown's representative is the Governor General, he is the person who should be attending the meeting at Waitangi while the prime minister should be a guest — and treated with respect.