Post by Kiwi Frontline on Aug 3, 2023 10:15:23 GMT 12
Bruce Moon: TREATY OR CHARTERS?
Claire Charters has said it quite often – so often in fact that she probably believes it now herself– that the Maori chiefs never ceded sovereignty to Queen Victoria and definitely not in the Treaty of Waitangi.
Maybe she learned this tale from another part-Maori Associate Professor, Sandy Morrison of Waikato University who asserted that “Te Tiriti speaks of the chiefs maintaining their tino rangatiratanga (authority) over their taonga (all they hold precious including the Maori language). The chiefs do allow the Queen to have kawanatanga, a nominal and delegated authority so that she can control her people.”[1] Fancy that – a bunch of petty chiefs ridden with mutual hatred “do allow” the most powerful woman in the world to do something!! Maybe she’s not the expert authority!
So what was the Treaty really about? Did Hobson really come halfway around the world with a 4200-word brief from the British Colonial Secretary to indulge in no more than a paper exercise? Claire Charters appears to think so.
New Zealand was not of course unfamiliar with paper exercises – the so-called “Declaration of Independence” of 1835 being a glaring example[2], now being flogged by racist part-Maori revisionists for all they think it is worth. But we’ll let that pass for the moment.
And so to Waitangi on 5th February 1840. Now what was said on that day was very fully recorded by Colenso and checked by Busby[3] at the time, though never, as far as I can ascertain, quoted by any of today’s racist revisionists. What that account makes very clear is that the chiefs, by their own words, understood that by signing the Treaty document they would become subordinate to the Governor – Hobson – and hence, only more so, to the Queen to whom Hobson himself was of course subordinate.[4] Simply stated, they knew that each would cede such sovereignty as he possessed – no doubt at all about it![5] They signed.
And they did not forget that they had done so either. I remind Professor Charters and others who appear to have forgotten if indeed they ever read them, that the minutes of the great Kohimarama conference of 1860 concluded with several motions, passed unanimously by more than one hundred senior chiefs present, thus:
“THAT THIS CONFERENCE TAKES COGNIZANCE OF THE FACT THAT THE SEVERAL CHIEFS, MEMBERS THEREOF, ARE PLEDGED TO EACH OTHER TO DO NOTHING INCONSISTENT WITH THEIR DECLARED RECOGNITION OF THE QUEEN’S SOVEREIGNTY AND OF THE UNION OF THE TWO RACES, ALSO TO DISCOUNTENANCE ALL PROCEEDINGS TENDING TO A BREACH OF THE COVENANT HERE SOLEMNLY ENTERED BY THEM.”....
breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2023/08/bruce-moon-treaty-or-charters.html
Claire Charters has said it quite often – so often in fact that she probably believes it now herself– that the Maori chiefs never ceded sovereignty to Queen Victoria and definitely not in the Treaty of Waitangi.
Maybe she learned this tale from another part-Maori Associate Professor, Sandy Morrison of Waikato University who asserted that “Te Tiriti speaks of the chiefs maintaining their tino rangatiratanga (authority) over their taonga (all they hold precious including the Maori language). The chiefs do allow the Queen to have kawanatanga, a nominal and delegated authority so that she can control her people.”[1] Fancy that – a bunch of petty chiefs ridden with mutual hatred “do allow” the most powerful woman in the world to do something!! Maybe she’s not the expert authority!
So what was the Treaty really about? Did Hobson really come halfway around the world with a 4200-word brief from the British Colonial Secretary to indulge in no more than a paper exercise? Claire Charters appears to think so.
New Zealand was not of course unfamiliar with paper exercises – the so-called “Declaration of Independence” of 1835 being a glaring example[2], now being flogged by racist part-Maori revisionists for all they think it is worth. But we’ll let that pass for the moment.
And so to Waitangi on 5th February 1840. Now what was said on that day was very fully recorded by Colenso and checked by Busby[3] at the time, though never, as far as I can ascertain, quoted by any of today’s racist revisionists. What that account makes very clear is that the chiefs, by their own words, understood that by signing the Treaty document they would become subordinate to the Governor – Hobson – and hence, only more so, to the Queen to whom Hobson himself was of course subordinate.[4] Simply stated, they knew that each would cede such sovereignty as he possessed – no doubt at all about it![5] They signed.
And they did not forget that they had done so either. I remind Professor Charters and others who appear to have forgotten if indeed they ever read them, that the minutes of the great Kohimarama conference of 1860 concluded with several motions, passed unanimously by more than one hundred senior chiefs present, thus:
“THAT THIS CONFERENCE TAKES COGNIZANCE OF THE FACT THAT THE SEVERAL CHIEFS, MEMBERS THEREOF, ARE PLEDGED TO EACH OTHER TO DO NOTHING INCONSISTENT WITH THEIR DECLARED RECOGNITION OF THE QUEEN’S SOVEREIGNTY AND OF THE UNION OF THE TWO RACES, ALSO TO DISCOUNTENANCE ALL PROCEEDINGS TENDING TO A BREACH OF THE COVENANT HERE SOLEMNLY ENTERED BY THEM.”....
breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2023/08/bruce-moon-treaty-or-charters.html