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Northland Advocate 2/3/16
HISTORY LESSON
A re-run of a very “folksy” tale from Mr Brandt ( Advocate, February)
Early Maori quickly recognised that European boats were much more seaworthy than Maori canoes but their attempts to copy them failed. As a result, in the Far North and the far south, Maori commissioned British boat-builders to build ships for them. Yes, British subjects set up the Deptford shipyard at Horeke and the “Sir George Murray” was apparently designed by a retired Royal Navy lieutenant.
Mr Brandt’s story about the seizure of this ship in Sydney in 1830 is more-or-less correct, though those who did the seizing would have been very surprised to have been called Australians at that time in history.
Mr Brandt’s flag story is mostly bunkum and readers should refer to eye-witness Hugel’s account in King’s Penguin History, page 153.
Yes, Hobson flew the Union Jack and would not permit any other flags to be flown but that was quite reasonable and understandable in the circumstances. What Hone Heke thought when he signed the treaty is anyone’s guess but it is clear that all the assembled chiefs were left in no doubt about what the treaty said. Mr Brandt is merely speculating.
Yes, you can certainly bet that our NZ history has been rewritten for today’s school children, much of it a monstrous perversion of the truth.
It is worth recalling George Orwell’s observation on history propaganda and rewriting history “the most effective way to destroy a people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history”.
Artistic licence and imagery may be fine for poetry but not history.
R P
Matapihi
Bay of Plenty Times 2/3/16
ASTROLABE ISSUE
After being closed for nearly four years because of the Rena I was looking forward to getting back to fishing Astrolabe Reef.
The Motiti Rohe Moana Trust on behalf of Nga Hapu o te Moutere o Motiti has applied to the Minister of Primary Industries for a two-year closure within three nautical miles of Astrolabe Reef.
This raises questions:
As the Motiti Rohe Moana Trust have been refused a customary marine title by Minister Finlayson do they have a mandate to make this request?
After four years of closure do we need another two? There appears to be no scientific basis to the request.
Why are two other important fishing spots included?
The application makes it clear that this is a stop-gap to when the creation of a Mataitai Reserve will give Maori the ability to close the area to all fishing but still allow Maori customary fishing.
Submissions must be made by March 14 by post to Ministry of Primary Industries or email FMSubmissions@ mpi.govt.nz. Further details www.mpi.govt.nz. (Abridged)
R P
Welcome Bay
Northland Advocate 2/3/16
HISTORY LESSON
A re-run of a very “folksy” tale from Mr Brandt ( Advocate, February)
Early Maori quickly recognised that European boats were much more seaworthy than Maori canoes but their attempts to copy them failed. As a result, in the Far North and the far south, Maori commissioned British boat-builders to build ships for them. Yes, British subjects set up the Deptford shipyard at Horeke and the “Sir George Murray” was apparently designed by a retired Royal Navy lieutenant.
Mr Brandt’s story about the seizure of this ship in Sydney in 1830 is more-or-less correct, though those who did the seizing would have been very surprised to have been called Australians at that time in history.
Mr Brandt’s flag story is mostly bunkum and readers should refer to eye-witness Hugel’s account in King’s Penguin History, page 153.
Yes, Hobson flew the Union Jack and would not permit any other flags to be flown but that was quite reasonable and understandable in the circumstances. What Hone Heke thought when he signed the treaty is anyone’s guess but it is clear that all the assembled chiefs were left in no doubt about what the treaty said. Mr Brandt is merely speculating.
Yes, you can certainly bet that our NZ history has been rewritten for today’s school children, much of it a monstrous perversion of the truth.
It is worth recalling George Orwell’s observation on history propaganda and rewriting history “the most effective way to destroy a people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history”.
Artistic licence and imagery may be fine for poetry but not history.
R P
Matapihi
Bay of Plenty Times 2/3/16
ASTROLABE ISSUE
After being closed for nearly four years because of the Rena I was looking forward to getting back to fishing Astrolabe Reef.
The Motiti Rohe Moana Trust on behalf of Nga Hapu o te Moutere o Motiti has applied to the Minister of Primary Industries for a two-year closure within three nautical miles of Astrolabe Reef.
This raises questions:
As the Motiti Rohe Moana Trust have been refused a customary marine title by Minister Finlayson do they have a mandate to make this request?
After four years of closure do we need another two? There appears to be no scientific basis to the request.
Why are two other important fishing spots included?
The application makes it clear that this is a stop-gap to when the creation of a Mataitai Reserve will give Maori the ability to close the area to all fishing but still allow Maori customary fishing.
Submissions must be made by March 14 by post to Ministry of Primary Industries or email FMSubmissions@ mpi.govt.nz. Further details www.mpi.govt.nz. (Abridged)
R P
Welcome Bay