Post by Kiwi Frontline on Apr 21, 2018 6:48:11 GMT 12
Dear Editor (Sent to the Wanganui Chronicle 14/4/18)
Potonga has got my Whakapapa wrong. I like he are Ngati Kiwi - a New Zealander borne and bred as were many of our ancestors. In fact if we follow are ancestry far enough back we will find common ancestors (unless of course the Bible or more modern DNA analysis is wrong).
So ‘cuz’ lets fight together to make New Zealand a place where we and our children all have jobs and 80% or so of the wealth of this country (and the world) is not held in the hands of an over privileged few.
Potonga knows, as well as I do, that there are Maori multimillionaires who have no intention of sharing their wealth with Iwi or hapu or anyone else. They are, like Potonga and myself, human and like us they need to do better.
Not only has Potonga got my whakapapa/ancestry wrong but the Irish were forced to disperse all around the world because of the destruction of the Commons . Which for those who don’t know was the land held and used in common by the ordinary people which is what will happen here if the 500 or so Iwi Coastal claims are allowed to proceed and radical Iwi get their way.
The 500 or so coastal claims which the Attorney General has described as ‘overlapping’ , illustrate that there was no ‘'Maori Nation”, just in my opinion, a feuding self seeking set of tribes who wanted what someone else had. The worst example of this being the Musket Wars where Tau (war bands) killed, raped and pillaged their way through most of New Zealand often using the slain as a source of food (or just eating the brains of those of high Mana) .
Unfortunately some of those involved were the ancestors of Potongas heros, but to be fair we all have feet of clay and if we go far enough in anyones ancestry we will all find a tribal past that involves similar nastyness.
As I said, and will keep saying, we are all human with a common whakapapa/ancestry and if we look ,can find ways to do better.
Also, in my opinion, Iwi and the rest of New Zealand are being deliberately divided to allow the rich and greedy to not only maintain control but to take as much of New Zealands land and wealth as they can and in many cases to sell it off to overseas interests.
Furthermore successive Governments are putting up millions of taxpayers dollars to support Iwi claims while forcing those who have counter claims, that show there has not been continual and exclusive use by Iwi,to use their own money to go to the High Court to oppose these taxpayer funded claims.
Finally we need to remember we have much to thank local Iwi for, one of the reasons being their defence of Wanganui (probably then Petre ?) by repelling the Hauhau who where coming down river to kill, eat and wipe out the settlement. We have a checkered past but working together is the only way forward.
TERRY O’CONNOR
Dear Editor (Sent to the Bay of Plenty Times 11/4/18)
When giving lessons from your moral high ground it important to get you facts right, particular when you are trying to give lessons to the formidable Cr. Margaret Murray-Benge.
Avril Manley (BOP Times 11 April) in claiming that the Crown accepted the Waitangi Tribunal’s 2014 Report that sovereignty was not ceded is simply wrong. The Report has no legal status and is not binding on the Crown. The Crown have simply chosen to ignore it. Crown lawyer, at the time, Mr Irwin informed the Tribunal, "That simply is the situation under the Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975, there is no requirement that the Crown responds to any Tribunal report."
In a brief statement, subsequently, in responding to the report, Attorney-General and Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Minister Chris Finlayson said: "There is no question that the Crown has sovereignty in New Zealand. This report doesn't change that fact."
RICHARD PRINCE Welcome Bay
Dear Editor, (Sent to the Otago Daily Times 9/4/18
Here it is again !
This time it's Julie Anne Genter, Minister for Women ( why no Minister for men ? ), saying that old white men should "move on from company boards".
If Ms Genter had the faintest idea of what she and the rest of humanity owes to "old" ( and not so old ) "white men", then she and all others similarly indoctrinated would hold their tongues.
Certainly, men, old and young, have done more than their share of evil, but this is only because they have done more than their share of everything
As the unusually fair- minded feminist / lesbian Camille Paglia said : "If civilisation had been left to women we would still be living in grass huts".
COLIN RAWLE, Nelson
sites.google.com/site/kiwifrontline/letters-submitted-to-newspapers/unpublished-letters
Potonga has got my Whakapapa wrong. I like he are Ngati Kiwi - a New Zealander borne and bred as were many of our ancestors. In fact if we follow are ancestry far enough back we will find common ancestors (unless of course the Bible or more modern DNA analysis is wrong).
So ‘cuz’ lets fight together to make New Zealand a place where we and our children all have jobs and 80% or so of the wealth of this country (and the world) is not held in the hands of an over privileged few.
Potonga knows, as well as I do, that there are Maori multimillionaires who have no intention of sharing their wealth with Iwi or hapu or anyone else. They are, like Potonga and myself, human and like us they need to do better.
Not only has Potonga got my whakapapa/ancestry wrong but the Irish were forced to disperse all around the world because of the destruction of the Commons . Which for those who don’t know was the land held and used in common by the ordinary people which is what will happen here if the 500 or so Iwi Coastal claims are allowed to proceed and radical Iwi get their way.
The 500 or so coastal claims which the Attorney General has described as ‘overlapping’ , illustrate that there was no ‘'Maori Nation”, just in my opinion, a feuding self seeking set of tribes who wanted what someone else had. The worst example of this being the Musket Wars where Tau (war bands) killed, raped and pillaged their way through most of New Zealand often using the slain as a source of food (or just eating the brains of those of high Mana) .
Unfortunately some of those involved were the ancestors of Potongas heros, but to be fair we all have feet of clay and if we go far enough in anyones ancestry we will all find a tribal past that involves similar nastyness.
As I said, and will keep saying, we are all human with a common whakapapa/ancestry and if we look ,can find ways to do better.
Also, in my opinion, Iwi and the rest of New Zealand are being deliberately divided to allow the rich and greedy to not only maintain control but to take as much of New Zealands land and wealth as they can and in many cases to sell it off to overseas interests.
Furthermore successive Governments are putting up millions of taxpayers dollars to support Iwi claims while forcing those who have counter claims, that show there has not been continual and exclusive use by Iwi,to use their own money to go to the High Court to oppose these taxpayer funded claims.
Finally we need to remember we have much to thank local Iwi for, one of the reasons being their defence of Wanganui (probably then Petre ?) by repelling the Hauhau who where coming down river to kill, eat and wipe out the settlement. We have a checkered past but working together is the only way forward.
TERRY O’CONNOR
Dear Editor (Sent to the Bay of Plenty Times 11/4/18)
When giving lessons from your moral high ground it important to get you facts right, particular when you are trying to give lessons to the formidable Cr. Margaret Murray-Benge.
Avril Manley (BOP Times 11 April) in claiming that the Crown accepted the Waitangi Tribunal’s 2014 Report that sovereignty was not ceded is simply wrong. The Report has no legal status and is not binding on the Crown. The Crown have simply chosen to ignore it. Crown lawyer, at the time, Mr Irwin informed the Tribunal, "That simply is the situation under the Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975, there is no requirement that the Crown responds to any Tribunal report."
In a brief statement, subsequently, in responding to the report, Attorney-General and Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Minister Chris Finlayson said: "There is no question that the Crown has sovereignty in New Zealand. This report doesn't change that fact."
RICHARD PRINCE Welcome Bay
Dear Editor, (Sent to the Otago Daily Times 9/4/18
Here it is again !
This time it's Julie Anne Genter, Minister for Women ( why no Minister for men ? ), saying that old white men should "move on from company boards".
If Ms Genter had the faintest idea of what she and the rest of humanity owes to "old" ( and not so old ) "white men", then she and all others similarly indoctrinated would hold their tongues.
Certainly, men, old and young, have done more than their share of evil, but this is only because they have done more than their share of everything
As the unusually fair- minded feminist / lesbian Camille Paglia said : "If civilisation had been left to women we would still be living in grass huts".
COLIN RAWLE, Nelson
sites.google.com/site/kiwifrontline/letters-submitted-to-newspapers/unpublished-letters