Post by Kiwi Frontline on May 13, 2016 16:51:54 GMT 12
Kapiti News 11/5/16
UNWINNABLE
Karen Butterworth (letter May 4) has taken it upon herself to apologise to the readers, yet again. This time for her part in re-living the hurtful past. Her signing off seems a realization of the unwinnable position she has adopted.
I do not share her apologetic nature and believe rather than a head in the sand approach, we need to discuss this tribal tragedy that is unfolding before us. Karen informed us that she now intends to focus on a “nation” we can be proud of. The word “nation” describes a large body of people that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek a government peculiarly its own.
How then is this proud nation supposed to exist when we have a made up group of people effectively suing the descendants of innocent people who lived or governed generations ago. This apparently separate section of our nation is hell bent on obtaining sovereignty, ownership of natural resources and power sharing situations at every level of our lives.
Karen stated earlier that Treaty settlements that are paid out have succeeded in turning around Maori disadvantage and will save us taxes. Rarely have I heard a statement so far from the truth. Maori continue to fall further into the depth of despair, particularly since the setting up of the Waitangi Tribunal in 1975, the worsening social statistics for Maori should be a source of shame for not only Karen Butterworth but for all Maori leaders in New Zealand. In chasing treaty dollars, making up a separate identity and wanting separate representation they have failed their people in the most miserable way.
There is no Maori leader in New Zealand today that can say that they have improved things for all Maori people, not one. This is disgraceful. Sir Apirana Ngata would turn in his grave at this racist political maneuvering.
Karen also informs us that Treaty settlements are nearly finished. Did she not read the half page advertisement in this very paper directly below a letter of mine (March 16) entitled in big blue letters “Hapu Gearing Up For Treaty Claims” where Ngati Raukawa have trained 23 students at Te Wananga o Raukawa to assist them in further claims against the tax payers of New Zealand.
Treaty claims are a racial epidemic in this country, they are a symptom of a society in a political melt down. The sooner we have some strong leadership that galvanizes New Zealanders as one people, as Hobson did in 1840 with his statement “he iwi tahi tatou”, or “we are now one people” the better.
ANDY OAKLEY
Raumati Beach
Weekend Sun / Sunlive 13/5/16
REGARDING CHILDREN AS CASH COWS
Re: G Clark's letter ‘The Government encourages those irresponsible parents!' (The Weekend Sun, April 29).
G Clark rudely suggests I am “enamoured” by my “blue-tinted spectacles” which I sadly do not own, as he declares I'm incorrect in not blaming the Government for the fact that, out of all the children in New Zealand in Child, Youth and Family care a massive 60 per cent are Maori out of a population of just 15 per cent.
May I suggest G Clark visit his optometrist and renew his bi-focals as he reiterates exactly what I said – which is that there is too much easily accessed benefit money which encourages people to breed and regard their children as cash cows, or just breed because they are too lazy to use contraceptives and just do not care. G Clark always blames the Government for all his complaints and ailments.
The welfare system in New Zealand is one of the best in the world but it is abused by those who carelessly bring children into the world with neither the means nor desire to properly care for them.This is why I suggested there be benefits for the first two children only. And yes, sadly Maori do predominate the numbers who abuse their children.You cannot blame the Government for their lack of responsibility – why is it that 85 per cent of non-Maori have a cleaner record?
We are all NZers.
Perhaps the answer would be for the media to name and blame all abusive parents. The shame of public exposure of all cases of abuse just might prevent yet another attack on a defenceless child.
M B
Tauranga City.
Wairarapa Times-Age 13/5/16 (Text your thoughts section)
■ Whole heartedly agree with Tuesday TA Letters — rather patronising of MDC to allow a member from each tribe to join council meetings.
■ when r maori going 2 do what everyone else in this country does 2 get a job apply thats right apply, instead of expecting work positions 2 simply b given,? say that out loud @ they, I call u a racist, dont 4get though there r maori only schools, @ sports teams, so who r the racists?
■ Editor claims that Maori need an "artificial boost" to help them seek representation on council's. Are they really that hopeless they can't do that themselves like any other can-didate as had to do?
■ if Marama Fox claims the accountability on Maori committee meetings is so high,
How come they are not standing for Council? Stop always looking for a 'leg up' I'm sure Martin Luther King would think the same, Maoris are treated like royalty compared to the way Black Americans were.
■ mayor Patterson in your comment today in paper council wants to get a gauge on what public wants. Get this. People don't want unelected iwi undemocratically placed on the council.
■ Maori term a myth ... Read the only treaty Te Tiriti not the one from the Weetbix box ... Your arrogance promotes separatism.
UNWINNABLE
Karen Butterworth (letter May 4) has taken it upon herself to apologise to the readers, yet again. This time for her part in re-living the hurtful past. Her signing off seems a realization of the unwinnable position she has adopted.
I do not share her apologetic nature and believe rather than a head in the sand approach, we need to discuss this tribal tragedy that is unfolding before us. Karen informed us that she now intends to focus on a “nation” we can be proud of. The word “nation” describes a large body of people that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek a government peculiarly its own.
How then is this proud nation supposed to exist when we have a made up group of people effectively suing the descendants of innocent people who lived or governed generations ago. This apparently separate section of our nation is hell bent on obtaining sovereignty, ownership of natural resources and power sharing situations at every level of our lives.
Karen stated earlier that Treaty settlements that are paid out have succeeded in turning around Maori disadvantage and will save us taxes. Rarely have I heard a statement so far from the truth. Maori continue to fall further into the depth of despair, particularly since the setting up of the Waitangi Tribunal in 1975, the worsening social statistics for Maori should be a source of shame for not only Karen Butterworth but for all Maori leaders in New Zealand. In chasing treaty dollars, making up a separate identity and wanting separate representation they have failed their people in the most miserable way.
There is no Maori leader in New Zealand today that can say that they have improved things for all Maori people, not one. This is disgraceful. Sir Apirana Ngata would turn in his grave at this racist political maneuvering.
Karen also informs us that Treaty settlements are nearly finished. Did she not read the half page advertisement in this very paper directly below a letter of mine (March 16) entitled in big blue letters “Hapu Gearing Up For Treaty Claims” where Ngati Raukawa have trained 23 students at Te Wananga o Raukawa to assist them in further claims against the tax payers of New Zealand.
Treaty claims are a racial epidemic in this country, they are a symptom of a society in a political melt down. The sooner we have some strong leadership that galvanizes New Zealanders as one people, as Hobson did in 1840 with his statement “he iwi tahi tatou”, or “we are now one people” the better.
ANDY OAKLEY
Raumati Beach
Weekend Sun / Sunlive 13/5/16
REGARDING CHILDREN AS CASH COWS
Re: G Clark's letter ‘The Government encourages those irresponsible parents!' (The Weekend Sun, April 29).
G Clark rudely suggests I am “enamoured” by my “blue-tinted spectacles” which I sadly do not own, as he declares I'm incorrect in not blaming the Government for the fact that, out of all the children in New Zealand in Child, Youth and Family care a massive 60 per cent are Maori out of a population of just 15 per cent.
May I suggest G Clark visit his optometrist and renew his bi-focals as he reiterates exactly what I said – which is that there is too much easily accessed benefit money which encourages people to breed and regard their children as cash cows, or just breed because they are too lazy to use contraceptives and just do not care. G Clark always blames the Government for all his complaints and ailments.
The welfare system in New Zealand is one of the best in the world but it is abused by those who carelessly bring children into the world with neither the means nor desire to properly care for them.This is why I suggested there be benefits for the first two children only. And yes, sadly Maori do predominate the numbers who abuse their children.You cannot blame the Government for their lack of responsibility – why is it that 85 per cent of non-Maori have a cleaner record?
We are all NZers.
Perhaps the answer would be for the media to name and blame all abusive parents. The shame of public exposure of all cases of abuse just might prevent yet another attack on a defenceless child.
M B
Tauranga City.
Wairarapa Times-Age 13/5/16 (Text your thoughts section)
■ Whole heartedly agree with Tuesday TA Letters — rather patronising of MDC to allow a member from each tribe to join council meetings.
■ when r maori going 2 do what everyone else in this country does 2 get a job apply thats right apply, instead of expecting work positions 2 simply b given,? say that out loud @ they, I call u a racist, dont 4get though there r maori only schools, @ sports teams, so who r the racists?
■ Editor claims that Maori need an "artificial boost" to help them seek representation on council's. Are they really that hopeless they can't do that themselves like any other can-didate as had to do?
■ if Marama Fox claims the accountability on Maori committee meetings is so high,
How come they are not standing for Council? Stop always looking for a 'leg up' I'm sure Martin Luther King would think the same, Maoris are treated like royalty compared to the way Black Americans were.
■ mayor Patterson in your comment today in paper council wants to get a gauge on what public wants. Get this. People don't want unelected iwi undemocratically placed on the council.
■ Maori term a myth ... Read the only treaty Te Tiriti not the one from the Weetbix box ... Your arrogance promotes separatism.